Hi,

relatively new P3D user here. I have installed Orbx EU England scenery and Aerosoft Manchester. When I land at Manchester, I see duplicate runway markings, .e.g., a 05L and a 06L, in slightly different positions and the runway markings are duplicated/offset. I assume that the runway details are coming from the two sceneries being displayed at the same time?

Can anyone please advise what I need to do to resolve this (without completely deleting one of the sceneries)

regards

Dave

@stevendt, the Manchester runway designations changed in 2007.

Both ORBX and Aerosoft products were released after that date. Disable each and it should become obvious which product is showing the old designations.

Hi Ray,

thanks a lot for taking the time to reply.

Assuming that I identify the one that has the wrong designation, do I need to completely disable that scenery? That is going to lead to either losing the rest of the country details from EU England (if it's the Orbx product) or losing the enhanced EGCC airport scenery (if it's the Aerosoft airport). Or can I selectively "hide" incorrect elements of the scenery?

regards

Dave

It’s a strange one Dave as both were released after 2007. Disable each in turn and see what changes. P3Dv5 will have correct designations. The others should have too.

Hi Ray,

thanks, I will try this tomorrow when I can get to the sim.

I'm still struggling to see how I can (permanently) disable one of the products without losing other functionality, i.e., the rest of the Orbx EU England scenery or the Aerosoft EGCC scenery. Is this situation suggesting that I can't have both installed ?

regards

Dave

You should be able to identify the specific file causing it and then just disabling that file (e.g. changing the .bgl to .off)

1 hour ago, Blasb said:

You should be able to identify the specific file causing it and then just disabling that file (e.g. changing the .bgl to .off)

Hi, thanks a lot for that, that sounds promising.

As I said at the start, I'm pretty much a newbie with P3D, I take it that these ".bgl" files are in the installed scenery directories and will have meaningful names that I can associate with specific features of the scenery, such as runway identifiers, runway markings, taxiway markings etc.?

regards

Dave

Dave, a single file contains all the relevant info for each airport. They’re known as AFCADs. There’s a free program that allows users to edit the data and recompile it.

The name won’t necessarily be obvious but we should be able to identify it. One of the advantages of P3D. No such utility exists for MSFS. 😉

14 hours ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

Dave, a single file contains all the relevant info for each airport. They’re known as AFCADs. There’s a free program that allows users to edit the data and recompile it.

Hi Ray,

thanks for the info, that sounds interesting, if a little complex. I'll look into it, but would worry that I'd break things even more!

I've just had a look at the Orbx EU Eng directory and there are two files for EGCC, I'm going to try renaming them first to see if the duplication goes away if I remove the Orbx files and hopefully, just leave the EGCC files from the scenery pack.

regards

Dave

46 minutes ago, stevendt said:

I've just had a look at the Orbx EU Eng directory and there are two files for EGCC, I'm going to try renaming them first to see if the duplication goes away if I remove the Orbx files and hopefully, just leave the EGCC files from the scenery pack.

Which entry is further up in Scenery Library? It may just be a case of reordering them. I’d expect the Aerosoft to be higher than the ORBX.

If you have LNM (Little Navmap), identifying all AFCAD files for a specific airport is quite simple. On the 'Information' tab in the 'Overview' section, scroll down and you will see the highlighted AFCAD files. Just click on each of them and Explorer will open the directory where the file is located. See the screenshot under the spoiler:

14 minutes ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

Which entry is further up in Scenery Library? It may just be a case of reordering them. I’d expect the Aerosoft to be higher than the ORBX.

Hi Ray! In my library, custom sceneries are always below ORBX.

Edited July 5Jul 5 by Jla6yx

7 minutes ago, Jla6yx said:

Hi Ray! In my library, custom sceneries are always below ORBX.

Our setups are very different. All my airports including ORBX have a higher priority than ORBX larger areas.

Let’s see how Dave gets on.

I renamed the two EGCC files in the Orbx directory, all of the EGCC buildings disappeared and lots of “craters” appeared! i.e., the Aerosoft scenery was not displayed either. 

The Orbx sceneries were at the top of the list, so I tried moving EGCC to the top, the buildings came back, but the taxi lines were missing and the craters were still there :-(

 

Dave, the only Manchester available for P3D from Aerosoft is a very old one for P3Dv3 and FSX. That would explain the wrong runway designations.

If that’s the one you have then I’m not surprised you’re having problems. It’s unlikely to be compatible with v5.

Try disabling Aerosoft Manchester and restore the ORBX files. Report back.