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G'day all,At least that's how I feel. On top of the world. Just have to share my euphoria. :-jumpyAfter all my trepidations, techno-fear and just plain ignorance of scenery making I have just produced my first wee bit of terrascenery.Thank you Todd for the terrascene program which is unbelievably automated and intuitive and comes with a brilliantly written tutorial/referrence guide.Thank you also to all who have patiently answered my posts to the forum seeking help.The Scenery is 15 miles radius of YSSY (Sydney) bounded by Helensbourg in the south, Narrabeen lakes to the north and prospect resevoir to the west. Size is 53 MB and the scenery was produced from shapefiles, downloaded from DCW using arcexplorer, which were added to the project file in terrascene and mapped using the base textures supplied with terrascene.Thanks Todd, I owe youCheers,Roger @YSSY

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Congratulations Roger!Looking forward to your upload ;) Ben

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Congratulations, Roger!I believe this is only your "First Cut" on the scenery :) Now you should go for Terrashape. With Terrashape and a CAD program, you can modify every shapefile to your hearts content...or re-draw all of them like I do...makes your life a LOT easier.

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G'day Andrew,OK Andrew you have my undivided attention; I'm all ears :-)How sophisticated a cad program does one need to open and modify the shape files in. ??I have already downloaded terrashape but not installed it yet as I had no idea of just what its purpose was.I am just very happy to get a terrascened result. I have noticed that the roads are really visible across the green forrest background but are hardly noticeable against the urban residential textures. Any ideas as to how to fix this?Also I want to put sandy beaches down the coast and in the inlets and bays.Thanks for the encouragementCheers,roger @YSSY

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G'day Ben, At 6 min. / MB and lets see that's 53 MB.....yeah right :-lolThanks for the encouragement..... one day we'll all be on ADSL :-)Cheers,roger @YSSY

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Hi Roger,I use AutoCad. But everone cant`t just get this program. There is also IntelliCad2000, you can often get it on the CD`s following PC magazines. Haven`t tried it yet, but at least it is free.Terrashape can do a lot of stuff. The most important is that it can convert your shapefiles and put them all as different layers into a dxf file. Then you can edit the stuff! Make new urban areas, change the coastlines, make new roads, new land types, beaches...and when finished, you convert back to shapefiles. Also there is built in an excellent function to re-make the ponetp file, which has the land, ocean and islands. With Terrashape, you really get the power :)Regarding the roads, experiment with the options. Right now I use a pure gray colour for the roads, not a texture, pixel width=3.It can also depend on which order you map the shapefiles. This order has worked well for me: ponetp, dnnetp, dnnetl, pppolyp, rrline, rdline. Or roughly, the largest polygon shapefiles first, then the polyline files.

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RogerWhile writing TerraShape I tested with AutoSketch, AutoCAD, TurboCAD 6.5, IntelliCAD and DesignCAD.Basically any CAD program that can handle layers, read standard R12 dxf files and handle polylines will do the job.These are all very basic functions of a CAD program.Also, all the above programs, with the exception of AutoCAD which I use at work, were free on magazine disks during 2002.The latest version is on my site and the .exe is still under (minor) revision, so check there for updates. I am also trying hard to find the time to write a new manual. I have a couple of other docs that I'll put there for now specifically relating to coastlines.CheersColin

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G'day Colin,Thanks for replying. I have a small problem.I downloaded TSH12b.zip and installed it in d:/program files/terrashapeWhen I tried to run the exe I get the error"required DLL not found.... CC3250MT.DLL not found"Any idea's what my problem may be??Thanks for the info about all the CAD programs. The hunt is on :-)I look forward to your docs, especially the one on coastlines. Has a solution been found for the watery runways/taxiways yet,?Cheers,Roger @YSSY

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RogerYou need to get the full install first.This contains the required dlls.The later .exe can just be dropped into the install directory afterwards.I'm continually updating the exe as I add things and/or fix things.I always put the date that the last build was uploaded on my site.Colin

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Hi Roger,Where did you get this plane? it's beautiful!!!Congratulations for your first scenery. :-DCheers,Keyton

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Roger,I can send you a copy of TurboCAD v7.1 Standard.It came with the August ed.of PCAuthority.Rodger Buckley.

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G'day Keyton,>Where did you get this plane? it's beautiful!!!My second attempt at a repaint :-)Glad you like it, it's been in the Library for over a year!! :-lol Peregrine Qantas Training 6-10-2001Have you heard of a cure for the watery runways/taxiways?Thanks for the compliment. Cheers,Roger @YSSY

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G'day Roger, Don't know if you saw Randall's post in the Developer forum or not, but here's info for you regarding the water tile problem! It should allow you to fix those tiles.Quote "I would recommend downloading this great utility: Ground Type Transform v1.1 by Elrond Elvish and Jim Kanold. This will allow you to change the underlying ground tiles to "water", so you can use the Stearman with floats. Here is the download link: http://ftp.avsim.com/library/sendfile.php?DLID=10790 " UnquoteHope this helps you get going!Many Cheers!Ken WoodCNN International Weather :-sun1

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G'day Ken,Thanks for the post Ken but I have tried Ground type transform and had a long post with Elrond over the problem way back just after he released it to the library. Unfortunately ground transform doesn't solve the problem where land and water meet. Works well on all land or all water tiles.It seems as though the water mask overwrites water on top of the land tile.Cheers,Roger @YSSY

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Hi Rodger,First of all, thank you for the nice paint. I downloaded your jet and it shines! Very nice work! :-D"Have you heard of a cure for the watery runways/taxiways?"Well, I used Ground Transformer and sliced a new watermask with new ground textures and it works! Rio doesn't have this problem anymore! :-DBTW I created a new folder called COAST in Fly!'s main dir and put the .GTP files in it.Good luck,Keyton Cabral

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Roger,TerraShape will let you change the actual underlying coastline database. It is not the easiest task, but it is relatively straightforward.If you get the file called 'Extra Documentation' from my site, it explains how I 'fixed' Nice (Cote d'Azur) airport.You also will probably need GTT, but that's covered also.I'm still writing the new manual which will have all the details.CheersColinMy Site

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G'day Colin, I now have Terrashape installed and working, but have one small problem. If I select Shapefiles/covert shapefile to DXF file, the open file box has the file type DXF and thus I can't load the shape file? How do I get the shape file into terrashape in order to convert it to a DXF file?? ( I'm using the 1.2b exe)I'll make a hard copy of the manual and have a good look through it as I'm sure the answers will all be there. :-) As usual I have been in far too much of a hurry to sit and absorb the manual contents. I will download your extra documentation as Keyton has also had success with Rio airport doing something similar to what you are describing. If I can get Sydney runways/taxiways solid that'll be terrific.No hurry regarding the manuals. Take all the time you need. There's no rush, I have all the time in the world.I got to learn a bit about cad programs now :-) Thanks for all your help; I really appreciate it.Cheers,Roger @YSSY

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G'day Keyton,>Well, I used Ground Transformer and sliced a new watermask >with new ground textures and it works! Rio doesn't have this >problem anymore! :-D That sounds like a cure for Sydney alright! About a year ago I experinented with ground transformer but always the water was added over the top of the land by the water mask. So a new water mask it is.>BTW I created a new folder called COAST in Fly!'s main dir >and put the .GTP files in it. Thanks very much for showing me the way. As soon as I get up to speed with the cad program I will give it a try :-)Cheers,Roger @YSSY

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Roger,Please let me know if works or not, ok?Good luck,Keyton Cabral

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G'day Roger,It's supposed to do that :)Seriously, I suppose that the dialog could be better named, but what it's asking for is the name of your dxf file first.If it's a new file, then no problem, but you can import your shapefile data into an existing dxf, so TerraShape wants to know that first so that it can scan the existing file for conflicting layer names etc.If this is your first one, just make up an appropriate name with .dxf extension and follow the dialogs. I thought that this was covered in the existing manual, it definitely will be in the new one.The version should be 1.2.1.15, that was the last build that I uploaded.CheersColin

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