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Hi everyone,I'm just kicking around a few ideas here, and could do with some feedback. Basically, I was wondering if any of you guys would find a panel maker/editor useful. It would enable panels to be constructed visually, and parameters for gauges to be easily set via an interface. I would also throw in some tools to make pbg and pbm files directly from bitmaps and other such useful stuff. It would initially support the basic Fly!II gauges (all the gauges to make a decent working panel), and I'll probably put in a couple of useful custom gauges that I've found I needed whilst making the DC10.If anyone thinks this would be a good idea let me know (I don't want to get too involved in it unless people think they'll want to use it), and if anyone has any thoughts I'd be interested to know. Sadly, it would only be available for the PC (I don't have enough know how yet to implement it on the Mac).... sorry Mac guys.Also, to go along with this we could set up a series of generic systems for aircraft, then at least people who just wanted a go at making some panels could do this without having to worry about the systems side of things.Hope to get some replies,Matthew.

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Mathew,This sounds like a winner!Notwithstanding the contents of Rich's post, I believe (hope) that there is a future for the Fly! series if enough development work goes on by 3rd parties.I have always wanted to build a plane, but lack the time to develop things like the panels.RegardsColin

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Mathew,Sounds like an excellent idea.I have always wanted to create a Pacific Aerospace crop duster, but I don`t have a clue when it comes to panelsystems design.It would be great to have some basic technical documents which would allow users to modify the gauge graphics as well.I`m not about to give up on Fly!2, the more user friendly utilities we have available, the more we can keep Fly!2 going.Sounds great.Kind RegardsAndy

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Matthew,I would love to fool with a L1011 panel as I'm genuinely to unpatient to put enough work into it, as is. --Norm

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Hi Matthew,That sounds realy great! Then I will be able to make some panels for my planes!Cheers :-wave

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MatthewWhen you say you wouldn't have to worry about the systems side of things, does this mean if I add carb heat knob to the Cessna panel it would behave in the expected rpm drop/increase manner? ThanksBen

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This is one of the most welcomed ideas for a loooong time.Have hoped and waited for a thing like this ever since I started my own helo projects.When I'm not understanding everything about the panels, and have totry and invent the wheel over and over again,it get very frustrating.Manytimes I just want to give up.And now some light in the tunnel :)Thanks for your suggestion Matthew.I belive many people around havea wish to do aircrafts for FlyII,but like myself don't have the knowledgeand experience you have.Maybe this is the thing we need to push somemore life into our sim.Don't let it be lost.Keep it going Matthew.If alsosome of the talented 3D designers out there made some models foranybody to use,and new panels easily constructed,we would have a lotof new aircrafts available for FlyII.Maybe also many different world andpanelfiles,ready for anyone to use,for many different aircrafts/helos, single,multi engines,skid,retracting gear,basically all the different configurations needed for making all kind of aircrafts.Useful pictures fromdifferent cockpits,taken by everyone who can, would also be helpful toanyone making a panel.Maybe something for Johnnys Flysite.A completedatabase for aircraftdesign.Or maybe I'm just dreaming....Take care.Jan

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YES!! I would love something like this. Keep us posted...if you need any testers let me know.-dajackman

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This seems to me like a must for Fly developers who usually get stuck at the panel level. I have seen many talented airframe developers who simply could not get the panel issues sorted out easily. This seems like a very valuable product for all of us.Mannie

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Hi. That sounds like a very good idea. Another thing that may help is to have a way to stretch / enlarge the existing panels, just the visual part of it. In some systems, with small CRTs, there is a problem with reading some of the instruments. Can something like this be added / implemented to your original App.?Thanks, TV

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Count me in Matt. Excellent idea and a much needed tool if Fly is to survive.Cheers,Danny VickersAustralian Fly! Group

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Are you kidding? A panel maker would be the best thing next to FLY3.tony

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Fantastic idea,If wanna testers, I'm here...Paulo Moreira(e1010677@dee.isep.ipp.pt)

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Matthewsounds great, Would be an interesting tool to try out.RegardsPaul:-cool

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Are you kidding? You're kidding, right? How can you possibly ask me that?! :-)Holy Panels Batman! A Panel Maker!! Yippee!!! :-jumpyOK. So when will you have it ready? Today. Tomorrow. Hmmmmm? Are we there yet? ...Let's see now. How many more silly quips can I put in here... *:-*Cheers, Tony

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Excellent idea, Matthew. If you get this working you have a big winner. I will be one of many to use such utility.Good luck,Henri

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Please Please build it. i will learn how to use it!Thanks a million!I want to beta test the DC10 also, could I?Earl.... "and the greatest of these is Love." I Cor. 13:13

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Good idea Matthew.I say go for it.I'm not sure if I'm going to use it, but then again, I didn't think I was going to use TerraModels eighter until I got started with ENGM and now I'm on the home stretch. :()Roy B. :-waveOslo, Norway

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I would love to use it! I would like to create aircraft but I am not an artist. I can program the computer but everything looks bad. This program would help many people with the same problems.

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With a panel maker I could probably finish the 4-5 aircraft I have made in MAX and get them into FLYhenrik

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Mathew,What an absolutely brilliant idea! A tool for building a basic panel will do wonders for the future of Fly! II.Would it be possible to fully document just exactly what happens every time you click a mouse so that the user is getting a tutorial at the same time so that eventually the user will get the confidence to branch out on his own as eventually we will want to make full use of Fly! II's capabilities. We have been shown great aircraft models that as yet haven't developed any futher due to lack of a panel. Initially, panels need not be exactly true to life, I can remember flying a Lockheed Constellation (on a souped up cessna panel I think ), and I thought it was great! :-)Go for it Matthew. If you want testers count me in. Cheers,Roger @YSSY

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Hi Matthew;If you'll willing to supply developement tools that will enhance Fly II and possibly future updatesversions I for one appalude you. At this time there is so much discussion and sqabbling about which sim is better,that it takes away the fact that Fly II is very much alive and will stay that way with people like you and a number of others that have the talent to enhance what we now have. It doesn't matter which sim is better at this time,the reality is if we have talented people willing to spend the time and effort, those talented individuales will keep improving this great sim,which I believe will only get better as time goes on. For me Fly II will always be on my computer.The Fly II sim community has a lot of dedicated people in it and that also makes a positive difference as to whether this sim will improve or not. I see only positive times ahead,the spirit and dedication are there. Thanks again for your offer to help improve Fly II.

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Matthew,You know, I've been thinking about this for years but I don't have the necessary programming skills. Wouldn't it be great if it was possible to install avionics just as in real life (GPS, Airspeed Indicator, Altimeter, etc.) and then graphically do the connections and wiring among these systems? One could even use an actual schematic design to do so. Wouldn't this be an educating piece of software?The way I envisioned it is first a panel shape editor in which you input the actual dimensions of the panel(s) (since all instruments. switches and controls are of a given size regardless of which panel they are installed in) and where you can paste an actual picture of the panel, and then just drag and drop the instruments into their respective places.The second part would be the system designer where you do the actual linking of the different systems, the electrical, pneumatic and fuel circuits, etc.Maybe I'm day-dreaming, but all I want to say is that I would love something like that!!!If I can help in any way, just let me know.Regards,Alejandro AmigorenaSyracuse, NYAthlon XP 1800ABIT KR7A-RAID768Mb RAMGeForce 3 64MBSB Audigy GamerCH Flight Yoke USBCH Pro Pedals USB

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