Hi there.Question 1, can I use my planned FS2002 flightplans with RC?Because I did try to fly from EHAM to EFHK and got turned around dead in the oposite direction.Tried it twice and the same result each time.Question 2, also did't get a takeoff clearance after I had been cleared for positioning on the runway.Waited 10 minutes before taking off without permision.Happend with the same flight. Again 2 try's with same results.Somebody out there with the same problems?Would like some pointers.Thank you and enjoy!Carel.

1) post your plan. did you miss a checkpoint?2) when you are within +/- degrees of the runway heading, you are cleared for takeoff. my guess, you were on the wrong runway. same flightplan as in #1? what runway were you cleared for?

Hi.Yes I did post my flightplan and no I did not miss a checkpoint far asI know.I was cleared by ATC for runway 36 Center and cleared by RC for runway18R.Changed runway to 36 Center in RC and that's about all.This helps?thanks.Carel

Carel,The infamous runway 36. Are you using RC 3.01 or 3.0?When you are told to turn around, that is always because you missed a waypoint. Did RC tell you you're off course by any chance?Also, you say you posted your plan, but I don't see it anywhere. Post it to the forum and note which waypoint you just passed when told to turn around.Also, what panel/aircraft are you using?Finally, FSATC doesn't give very good runways. If FSATC tells you to take off 36 and RC tells you to take off 18, then the wind is from more of a southern direction and RC is right. I highly recommend you consider the winds and not what FSATC tells you. But this has nothing to do with not getting take-off clearance.

Carel and Scott,If you are using either of the Garmin 530's for your flight you may find that there are some waypoints in the Jepperson database that don't line up with FS2K2. I know of at least 1 (INPIN) that is off by enough that it will cause a problem if you use the one in the 530 database. I had to make a user waypoint at the correct Lat/Lon so that I could use it. All that to say, check your waypoint(s) for the correct positioning.maxsdadhttp://jdtllc.com/images/RCsupporter.jpg

Richard,This Garmin thing comes up over and over. Is there any way to import FS200x data into the Garmin? This would seem to be the best answer.

Scott,I don't think you can import FS2xxx data into the Garmin, but you can make (in the real Garmin) 1,000 user waypoints. I believe you can make almost as many in the FS530/XP530 units too since they both use the same Trainer Program for their database.I have made some for NAT crossings by making an FS flight plan and then skewing along the plan making waypoints in the Garmin every 4 to 6 hundred miles to match the plan layout as I cross the Atlantic. That way if you use the FS ATC plan with the FS GPS with it's limited oceanic waypoints or RC3 with the Garmin with the homemade waypoints you will still follow the same route.As you make a new waypoint, if you are at the point you want it to be, the Garmin will automatically put the correct Lat/Lon info in. If you know the Lat/Lon info you can input it yourself. Once you try it you will find it is very simple. I have made 15 waypoints already to make it easier to make plans RC3 will like. Also, what I do is make waypoints that are in one database and not the other(Americas/International) in the other so I can fly NAT and switch databases in mid ocean. I haven't done any for the Pacific yet.maxsdadhttp://jdtllc.com/images/RCsupporter.jpg

I did miss a waypoint namely the very first one, and yes I think the reason was the wrong runway assigned to this peticularflight.It's almost impossible to takeoff in a large jet and straight away make a very sharp turn to be able to interceptthe first waypoint.If done properly, till you get to the assigned transitionheight and are settled for a turn its already to late and your on your way to the second point.I did not realise this because the turn around occured about 50 odd mileslater and I missed the connection.Just for info, I fly a 747-200 Classic (Ready for pushback) and use the default INS system, which has its own problems but after learning how to work this system, there is nothing like it.Anyway today I flew from Madrid to Helsinky and no problems.Thank you all for your help and take care.Carel.

Carel,With what you describe, you have a DP, so you won't be dinged until you're outside the 30 nm DP range when APC takes control again, and sees you missed a point inside the DP.If you want to try a really fun procedure turn in real life, fly something smaller (like a 737 or DC-9/MD-80) and fly out of KDCA. It's a very tight turn right after take-off. If you don't make it correctly, you get shot down. ;-)In any case, it's always a good idea to put your first waypoint no closer than 7-10 nm from the airport. Then you can plan on taking off any runway and make it. With something like a 747, I recommend your first waypoint be 10-12 nm.