it also depends on how far the last checkpoint is from the arrival airport. if the distance is less than 5 miles you will have the option. more than 5 miles, you will always get vectors.jd

Ok. Got it. Another question though:If the last waypoint is within 5 nm of the arrival airport, but ISN'T a VOR, what will happen?Will you get held at the fix or NDB as though it were a VOR, or would you hold at the nearest preceeding VOR?Juts need to be sure. Some of the airports I fly into don't have a VOR on site or within 5nm.Thanks.Phil

you can't do holding if the last checkpoint is an ndb or an intersection (there is no dme information from either). only vor/dme's within 5 miles of the arrival airport.jd

Cheers. Thanks for the quick reply!Will there be an option to increase this distance in later versions? It's just that many UK airports don't actually have a VOR on or within 5 miles. What would I have to do the Radar Contact in order to increase this distance, or add my own VOR's to airports.Phil

not much i can do, and maintain realism. if the vor is 10 miles, on the far side of the airport, and i change it so you can hold there, then the holding instructions will be something like "hold 40 miles from xyz at 12000...."40 miles from the xyz vor, will be in approach's airspace, and we can't let center issue a hold inside approach's airspace.you could always practice over here in the USA :-)if you add a vor to your airports, you will have to add it to the rc navs.txt file too.jd

What about checking if the VOR is closer to the aircraft than the airport is, and if so allow holding if the VOR is up to 10 miles from the airport? That way the hold would still be outside of approach's airspace. Just a suggestion.Ian

that would be ok, but it isn't coded that way. there is a lot of geometry, and lots of possibility placements of vors, which might work, might not work. easier to just say, 5 miles or less (in any direction) from the airport, you can hold, otherwise, you get vectors.jd

I just wish that I could understand what they were saying!Will "Text Enabled" fix this on start-up?I get everything but the exact VOR radial. The last time I enabled Holding Patterns, my EFC time was for six hrs.later. Ouch!But still one terrific program!!!! http://jdtllc.com/images/RCsupporter.jpg:-ufo2

turn off pilot auto reply, and ask for a repeator text enabled will spell everything out for youthe vor radial will in all liklihood be the reciprocal to the heading you are flying when you get the holding instructions

Recently I've decided to up the difficulty of my flights by increasing the probability of holding. However, after a few flights with holding being necessary, I'm am not given a choice of whether to accept holding patterns or delay vectors. It just automatically tells me to expect delay vectors. I've read the manual and understand that this would happen if you had the co-pilot in control of the plane, but I never use the co-pilot.I was flying in the Flight One 737 at the time, I don't know if this would have anything to do with this problem.Thanks for any help.Phil

jd, didn't realize the vor radial was the reciprocal as you said...duh. I'll keeep it in mind and the holding instructions will be easier to understand. I think adding a VOR to your favorite airport in order to get proper holding instructions is a good idea. Ok, sure, airport Z doesn't have one in real life, but it's your sim. ;-) Free scenery programs like FSSC or Airport can create these. Editing the rcnavs.txt to include it and there you go. :-)Best, Rob