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Hi JD or Scott,when I fly from Madrid LEMD to Madeira LPMA, I hear just nuthing at all. No chatter at all in that area. Why?

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are you over water?what is the center name you are told to contact?jd

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JD,here is the flightplan. You may try yourself and find out that there is about none chatter.[flightplan]title=LEMD to LPMAdescription=LEMD, LPMAtype=IFRroutetype=3cruising_altitude=35000departure_id=LEMD, N40* 28.18', W003* 33.45',+001998.00departure_position=15destination_id=LPMA, N32* 41.55', W016* 46.39',+000190.00departure_name=MADRID_BARAJASdestination_name=MADEIRAwaypoint.0=LEMD, A, N40* 28.18', W003* 33.45', +01998.00, waypoint.1=D139B, I, N40* 26.25', W003* 31.16', +02400.00, waypoint.2=D139H, I, N40* 22.14', W003* 26.00', +03500.00, waypoint.3=D196Y, I, N40* 09.44', W003* 28.21', +07000.00, waypoint.4=KAMPO, I, N39* 44.00', W004* 03.19', +09000.00, waypoint.5=MONTO, I, N39* 13.18', W004* 29.48', +20000.00, UN857waypoint.6=MOLIN, I, N39* 00.00', W004* 41.08', +24000.00, UN857waypoint.7=HIJ, V, N38* 30.29', W005* 05.58', +31000.00, UW990waypoint.8=OXACA, I, N37* 57.00', W006* 00.00', +35000.00, UN858waypoint.9=LEPES, I, N37* 09.55', W007* 11.30', +35000.00, UN747waypoint.10=MINTA, I, N37* 07.43', W007* 23.00', +35000.00, UN747waypoint.11=VFA, V, N37* 00.48', W007* 58.30', +35000.00, UN747waypoint.12=NARTA, I, N36* 03.22', W012* 33.28', +35000.00, UZ14waypoint.13=ROLAR, I, N34* 12.41', W015* 12.20', +35000.00, UZ14waypoint.14=LIDRO, I, N33* 40.02', W015* 56.58', +34000.00, waypoint.15=IRSAN, I, N33* 10.00', W016* 30.16', +15000.00, waypoint.16=FUNOR, I, N32* 52.01', W016* 38.07', +05000.00, waypoint.17=LPMA, A, N32* 41.55', W016* 46.39', +000000.00, rcv3.datLufthansa,luf,A321, 1 , 25 , 50 , 50 , 1000 , 8 , 0 , 6 , 1 , 1 , 1 , 0 , 1 , 0 , 1 , 0 , 200 , 1200 ,, 171 ,D:Dokumente und EinstellungenFS200xEigene DateienFlight Simulator FilesLEMD-LPMA.PLN 500 , 500 , 500If you wand, I can do the flight again, morethough I could catch the center freq. after configureing RC and tell you that one. But you can as well copy the flightplan and save it in a notepad as ascii as LEMD-LPMA.pln and load it in RC and see youself, right?Thanx you for you help and support!

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how many files, and directories do you have in winwoodspain?jd

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fly it again, make sure the chatter slider is turned up. tell me what center you are asked to contact.i have the same number of files, so you have the files, they should play if you are in the spanish airspacejd

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JD,I will fly the toure again. But now there is at 19:15h Zulu the TV-Serie 24h season 2 comming up - I don't wanna miss that one!Generall the question: Why are there so many countries without chatter files in there directories??? especialy in Europe there are about none except spain and UK and some others...

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no one has recorded any.there are other countries, that have only one center. their chatter files are in the numeric center number directoriesjd

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The only observation/question I have is if the Spanish centers have a link to the spain directoy. I've never looked.

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JD, Scott,I guess there is a link missing...I am just flying from LPMA to LEMD with PMDG 737 at 370. After I was clear I got center "Lisboa Control" and my FSNAV tells me it is LPPC at 136.02 and in the ADV Display there is the next waypoint with distance and heading but the freq is zero "0" and I hear none chatter at all. I am NOT within spain area but in portugal! But I would love to hear spanish chatter here....Now I am in Madrid Control ATC Center and I have the spanish chatter again. But NOT within LPPC space!

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Hey,what do I have to do to edit the "airspace.csv" file in order to fix this missing ATC Center frequency and get maybe so chatter to play there???

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editing airspace.csv isn't going to get chatter in portugal. what is the center name that is missing chatter? lisbon?any other centers in portugal?is it realistic to hear spanish chatter in portugal centers?jd

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JD,well yes, in this area I guess it is spanish as well as portugees what both sounds alike. Which center name is missing I already stated above. That is exactly the name FSNAV shows me and the right frequency.I can check if Lisboa Control is the only one but don't you know better than me? I am just a simmer not a trained controler like you are.>editing airspace.csv isn't going to get chatter in portugal.>what is the center name that is missing chatter? lisbon?>>any other centers in portugal?>>is it realistic to hear spanish chatter in portugal centers?>>jd

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bumpany answere from you JD or Scott?What is going on with this center? None default chatter nor portugal chatter.

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i have been busy painting, so i haven't been connected much in the last 48 hours.do you have any wavs in winwood372?do you have any wavs in winwood91 - winwood98? how many?jd

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jd,372: 9 files in 8 folders total size 1.68kb91: 1,026 files in 0 folder total size 3.97MB98: 1,026 files in 0 folder total size 3.332MB>i have been busy painting, so i haven't been connected much>in the last 48 hours.>>do you have any wavs in winwood372?>>do you have any wavs in winwood91 - winwood98? how many?>>jd

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how many in 92, 93, 94, 95, 96, 97?

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files in each: 92 = 1026, 93 = 1026, 94 = 1026, 95 = 1026, 96 = 1026, 97 = 1026

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send me your .pln file, and i'll have a beta tester fly it, and see if they get chatterjd

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>send me your .pln file:) Does being over water make a difference to the chatter that's played? Scott?PP

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OK, I've flown it and it's exactly as Torben reported. Plenty of "chatter" - I do hate that expression! - on all the LEMD frequencies and with Madrid Control. After passing into Portuguese airspace at MINTA and being handed over to Lisboa Control there was one (synthetic?) call of "TXA fly heading 285" and then a deathly silence (as far as chatter was concerned) all the way to Madeira.As I mentioned before, all the flight after Faro (VFA) was over water - can't remember whether this has an affect on chatter or not.Pete

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Pete,thanx for having done the test to confirm what I am writing about.I guess wildy that not very many RC customers fly to Madeira, right? Otherwise it would have been reportet befor me already.

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many many posts ago, i asked if you were over water. long ago we decided not to do synthetic chatter over water. something about it being unrealistic to hear that many clearances, or handoffs to approach, etc, over water. if there is atlantic oceanic chatter for that area, it would play. but i don't have any.mystery solved. no synthetic chatter over water. oceanic chatter over water when available.jd

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Well, if it were just and only over water... yes agreed.But Madeira belongs to portugal or more so to Lisboa Control ATC center. So, I would get none chatter whenever I fly in portugal area over country NOT water/ocean?!? And I dont care if I hear there spanish or portugees chatter. And so fare this Liboa Control would be heard in all of the controlled zone all the way to Madeira, so I should hear what is going on befor a plane enters a approach or comes out of departure frequency of Lisabon Airport or any other airport of Portugal, right?You didnt know that this controller has all of portugal and the ocean 'till Madeira? I do not ask about synth chatter but for spanish or portugees chatter. That is not this big difference because many airlines fly there and it is a mix of spanish, english and portugees.>many many posts ago, i asked if you were over water. long ago>we decided not to do synthetic chatter over water. something>about it being unrealistic to hear that many clearances, or>handoffs to approach, etc, over water. if there is atlantic>oceanic chatter for that area, it would play. but i don't have>any.>>mystery solved. no synthetic chatter over water. oceanic>chatter over water when available.>>jd

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