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Above FL500

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jd,Please excuse me if I get some of the numbers wrong in asking this question.Will I be able to use Concorde in RC v4.0 easier?At the moment I ask for FL590 (east to west) and then Dev for Turb and make what Concorde would call a MAX CLIMB from FL260 up to a point where it won't climb any longer. At this point any further climb is the result of weather, (temp etc) and fuel load.In film I've seen, Concorde pilots say they flew so high that they 'owned' the sky above FL500 and so a slow climb to an unspecified height didn't matter, no one else was up there.Of course I cheat by telling v3.X I can't hold my alt due to turb and the controller doesn't bother me.Will V4.0 know that above FL500 there is nothing else any way and do it all for me?RegardsMark

Hi,i second that, it would be really cool (i love my concorde) :-loljanosch

Thanks jd :)RegardsMark

Errrr... ask me what? :-hmmm Pete

Errrr... ask me what? :-hmmm Pete

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Mark,I have used the PSS Concorde when testing v4. You have to change your procedures slightly. When filing your flight plan with RC set your cruise altitude to FL280 - Concorde's optimum sub-sonic altitude. This is necessary (especially on the EGLL_KJFK route) as Concorde has to maintain FL280 until reaching the Accel point in the Bristol Channel.Once you reach the Accel point request a higher altitude. You won't be able to request FL570 immediately. You'll have to go through 2 or 3 intermediate altitudes but will eventually be cleared to FL570 (or higher if you wish).The important thing is not to engage Max Climb for the remainder of the flight because Radar Contact will not tolerate your aircraft descending when it should be climbing. I use the Vertical Speed mode once the aircraft has reached Mach 2 (around 40,000ft) and maintain a climb rate of 50-100fpm. That ensures you will always be climbing. I also engage Mach hold. If you don't do this there is a danger that if you remain in Max Climb mode the aircraft will descend to maintain Mach 2 and if that happens you will get a telling off by RC.Hope that helps.

Ray (Cheshire, England).

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Hi Ray,Yes I've just brought the PSS version, I've been using the excellent Project MACH 2 model up until then.I used to use your method with the Project MACH 2 plane, because it didn't recreate the MAX CLIMB mode.When I switched to the PSS model, I wanted to use the accurate systems. It seems a shame for them to spend all that time coding and then ignore what they have done.The way I'm working with the PSS model is to file for FL590, take off and climb until I'm cleared to an altitude near FL260. At that point I ask for FL260 and cruise out over the Bristol Channel until I'm south of Cardiff.I then ask for FL590 and begin my MAX CLIMB using the PSS auto pilot.Of course I DEV for TURB before ever reaching FL590.This way I get to use the excellent PSS model and their programming skills and keep RC happy :)RegardsMark

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Hi Mark,<>Me too but because of the limitations of FS with 3rd party aircraft it just isn't posisble. This is a quote from PSS.<>I don't quite follow when you say "cleared to an altitude near FL260". Suppose you were cleared to FL230 and as you approached it were cleared higher - say to FL330 but because you were still over land you could not comply. I haven't flown with v3 for ages so I'm not totally familiar with how that version works. In v4 I would recommend my procedure to ensure you remain in control. Requesting higher when you wanted it - not when the controller decided and then reporting if you could or couldn't comply.<>There's little or no turbulence at those altitudes so that wouldn't be a realistic request. Still, each to their own and provided you get down in one piece and RC gives you due praise then no problem.Enjoy Concorde!

Ray (Cheshire, England).

System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant.

Cheadle Hulme Weather website.

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Thanks Ray,As you say its all a bit of a compromise.Sorry for the confusion, during the climb out I wait until I'm cleared to something above FL260 and then ask for lower etc, just as you thought.As for the quote from PSS, I read that too. It seems if you use real world weather like FS METEO, their programming is slightly off, otherwise I get MAX Climb to work fine.I got a reply from them yesterday to a question of mine that says their forthcoming patch might help with winds and sort the overspeed problem :)I look forward to using Concorde with RC v4.0 its a magical plane and a mystical program what more can we ask for:DRegardsMark

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