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Altitude Violation - Help Please

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Hello,Inbound to EHAM from EDDF I was directed to decend and maintain 6000 feet. I was about 40 miles from G/S acquisition. I was flying with ASV6 for weather and was in a PMDG 1900D. The altimeter in my 1900D is HG only. Since I was getting baro adjustments from the controller in MB (europe) I was using the "B" key to set the altimeter to the correct setting. The autopilot was on and the alt was set to 6000'. All RC4 settings were default except that I set the radio freq's and answer the controllers commands with VoiceBuddy responses (works great!)On three successive controller warnings (not at 6000') I would reset the altimeter and the autopilot would report me at 6000'. Final warning from the controller "busted" me for the violation. I quit at that point to look for my mistake.Am I missing something here? I had my systems programmed at the altitude and the altimeter was reset after each warning.Thanks in advance,Ron SagelNEAR KCHS

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were you descended to 6000 of FL60 - there will be a big difference herejd

Ron,Your problem is almost certainly an incorrectly set altimeter brought about by using the 'B' to set your altimeter instead of doing it manually. The 'B' key is set up for US altimetry procedures (Transition Altitude 18,000ft) and it does not work correctly with European procedures. I note you said you were cleared to 6000ft - as the Transition Altitude at Amsterdam is 3000ft, RC would actually have cleared you to FL60 and this is why you had a problem. Pressing the 'B' Key would have set the local QNH and you should still have been on standard setting (1013.2 hPa or 29.92in/Hg).You might like to read this previous explanation I posted in the forum - it may make things a little clearer to you:http://forums.avsim.net/dcboard.php?az=sho...id=16233&page=3To help you overcome the problem of having an altimeter that only has in/Hg in the subscale, I suggest you download my conversion chart which you'll find in the libraries at Avsim and Flightsim.com under the name presconv.zip. Make sure it's version 2, though, as the original version had a couple of errors.Petehttp://www.jdtllc.com/images/rcv4bannerbeta.jpg

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Hello,Thank you for the GREAT help here. I learned a lesson here - flying this sim is almost as hard as the real thing - just that crashes only need a reboot.Again,Thank you for the help,Ron SagelNEAR KCHS

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Hello,OK - I have the Alt or FL thing understood. I just tried a little test flight into EHAM again. How far out does a Trans Alt (say 3000') extend from the airport? Is it on an approach plate (the distance out) or is it a standard?Thanks,Ron Sagel

Hi again Ron,If you're talking real-world, then 3000ft is the Transition Altitude throughout the whole of the Amsterdam FIR - in other words, over the whole of Holland and at all airfields within that country. Unfortunately, unlike the US which has a single standard, procedures vary from country to country within Europe. For example, the United Kingdom also has a national Transition Altitude of 3,000ft but it also has different Transition Altitudes for specified airfields with certain areas. For example, all the airfields within the London TMA have a common TA of 6000ft and those withing the Manchester TMA, 5000ft. Outside these areas, the TA reverts back to the standard 3000ft but you would really need charts to know to know which area you were in.If you're asking about how RC handles these changes from one altitude to another - when, say, on your flight from EDDF to EHAM, RC changed from the departure TA of 5000ft to the arrival TA of 3000ft, you'll need an answer from jd - I'm sure he'll be visiting here soon.BestPetehttp://www.jdtllc.com/images/rcv4bannerbeta.jpg

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Thanks for the help again - yes, I would like to know how this is being handled in RC4. I get a little flustered with all of the real-world activity and the events on approach at a busy airport that are simulated by RC4 - really intense. I am flying SLOWER A/C to train but can only imagine what I would be going thru if I were flying a HEAVY. I went to Voice Buddy to help get my head out of the cockpit- a really big help for me. The most recent approach was in fairly heavy "smog" and when I am directed to "get to my proper altitude" I'm not very responsive - YET!Thanks and I'll look forward to hearing later.Ron SagelNEAR KCHS

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