December 23, 200718 yr Greetings,I think this would be a good place to ask this question.I like to fly the Flight1 ATR 72-500 now. I fly around the NW and use KSEA as my home airport. Since it's a commuter I usually make flights only 60-90 min long. As an example KSEA-CYVR. My questions center around flight planning. Do commuter flights use SIDS and STARS? I'm trying to make this as realistic as possible. So when I have a flight plan such as: KSEA RWY16L->PAE->HUH->YVR->CYVR RWY12. Would this require a DP? If not how would one transition from 16L to PAE? In the ATR the FMC shows 16L as a RNAV waypoint. So after takeoff and climb out I hit the autopilot and and it does a 180 to use RWY16L as a waypoint. That doesn't seem correct to me.If I select a DP such as ELMAA7 it adds hundreds of miles to my route. I'll have to assume that's not what commuter aircraft want to do. So basically I'm confused about correctly getting from climb out to getting onto a path to my next waypoint. I looked though the RC4 docs but all I've seem to do is confuse myself even more. Should I be taking vectors from ATC to get transitioned outbound?If anyone can help me here that'd be great. Thanks,-Matt
December 23, 200718 yr Commercial Member i can only answer from an rc perspectiveif the first checkpoint is within 30 miles of the departure airport, it is considered a departure procedure.tower will not give you a vector to fly after taking off, you will be on your own, to fly the departure procedure as filed.if there are multiple departure procedures, with a common end point, only include the common point, and check the flexible departure procedure. that means, you can fly any of the departure procedures on you own, you just have to end up at the common checkpoint.then you will be given vectors to your next checkpoint, by center when you check in.jd JD Read my blog
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