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12,000 Ft RC alerts :

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1-Every time when I decent to BIKF (Iceland), RC gives me 12,000 FT altitude, when plane reaches to FL120. RC keep saying I am not in FL120. I verify my altitude and local Baro settings, but RC goes on and on, then stops to give any more directions. I end up landing with out ATC instructions. 2- Mostly in my Intl approaches RC brings me to 7000 Ft and stops to give any more vectors for landing runways. I have to made my approaches based on local approach plates, then RC connects me to Tower.So, what happens between 7000 Ft and to final approach fix, NO control by RC??Please adviseSanal

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1) please read the section in the manual regarding transition altitudes, transition levels, etc. FL120 is not the same as 12,000. very important concept, and it is explained well in the manual2) are you told to descent to FL70 or 7000?jd

JD,Thanks for your response.1- I reviewed the manual and I made another flight from BGSF (Greenland)to BIKF (Iceland). During my approach to BIKF, RC ATC cleared me to decent FL170 and expect FL120. At FL170 level-off no complain by ATC about my altitude hold. When reached and level-off at FL120 RC-ATC warned me I am not at FL120. AS manual described , I decent to 11500 FT. Still ATC told me I am not in my assign altitude. I decent to FL110 and "BINGO" no more complain from RC-ATC.Then rest of the approach went on with out any problem. It looks likeFL120 should be FL110 in this part of the world.2- RC-ATC told me decent to 7000 Ft. I will check again, if I am missing some thingSanal

1. In that area the Transition Altitude is 7,000 feet. Any ATC commanded altitude above that are in flight levels and as you stated you received your commanded altitudes as FL which is correct. You did state, however, that you also checked your local baro settings. At these altitudes you would still use 29.92 in. or 1013 mb. for standard pressure. (Do not use the B key in MSFS as this only works in FAA transition levels at 18,000 feet and elsewhere would not be correct.) You would not adjust your altimeter to local pressure until commanded going down to an altitude in feet, so going to FL120 your altimeter should still be at standard pressure, not local pressure.The expect statement is not a clearance to descend. It may have stated expect to be at FL120 within a time limit or distance. The clearance should state to descend to FL120 with the imposed time or distance restriction. As a general rule, I'd shoot for FL120 at 40 nm out from destination.

Ron,1-You were right. I just made another flight to BIKF. I followed your guidance. I left 1013 mb until RC-APP instruction given as FT (6000FT) with mb setting. There were no problem Radar Contact performed perfect.Where shall I find other part of the world "Transition Altitudes"2- For my second problem, I will simulate the approach and go throught step by step and I will report my findings.Thanks for your helpSanal

If you look preflight at the controller page when you bring up your plan in the RC application window, you will see the TA is published for each airport there. (You can edit it if you wish on a per session basis - that is I'm not sure if it is saved with your airport changes. I have not run version 4 for awhile.)If you have the published plates for your airports it will be documented there especially on SIDs and STARS. In most cases RC TA data will match your plates but the controlling authority can change this.During flight when departing you will hear RC's copilot voice say "altimeter check" during climb. This is a reminder to set your altimeter pressure to standard. During descent, the copilot will remind you to set local pressure.

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