I have just been reading through all of this thread and i have some general comments. Firstly, MS abandonning MSFS, I am sure was not just because of the financial chrises back then. They want to distance themselves from the veeeeeery difficult ( and expensive to please) simming community and start afresh with something that is labeled as simmulation but in essence is a game, because this is where the money is. Think back 10 years and all the simmulations made by enthusiastic individuals and small companies... they are all gone and replaced with an endless line of games both for PC and consols. Flight, in my oppinion will be a game with high qualithy graphics, a fluid appealing ( to the public at large) flightmodel, and most importantly MS controlling the addons. Flight addons can only be purchased from MS Flight apps store. ( they have learned from Apple).3rd party developers can create new products but they can only be sold through MS (who makes a profit ofcause on this). Now to Microsoft Flight Simulator; FSX in its latest incarnation. When MSFS was stopped I compleately dropped out of the hobby also because i was so angry with MS for terminating this unique franchise, as far as I know the longest running PC program series ever. I have come back within the last couple of months and I am amazed at what i have found. Because there have not been a new version (FS11?!) it seems like developers, hardware, simming comunity had the time to keep up with FSX and turn it into something wonderfull. Orbx scenary, REX cloud and water, PMDG planes, Realair planes, VRS superbug just to name a few are transforming flightsimmulator in so many ways. Had there been another FS11 just around the corner or allready here then the focus would have been on if the PMDG 737 would function in FS11 together with all the other addons we have just invested in. FSX might not be the perfect sim, but as someone wrote it is here and it is what ties the whole simming comunity together. Alternatives, forget that, just look at Xplane that have not had a great following despite all its qualities. In my oppinion FS11 or FS12 is allready here (Orbx+REX+new planes as above) and the good news is that this can mature further as no new version is being forced upon us. This is just my 2 cents worth....... Lars