Grumpyrocker

Hope you have fun with it. Really enjoyed building my system a couple of weeks ago. Not done it for a while.

How very sad of you to drag the thread down again. It was a metaphor, understand that? You don't know anything at all about me or experience with incubators or what possible connotations they have had in my life, my late wife or my children. All I see is someone who seems - for no reason I can tell - out to get me. Believe me it really takes a lot more to phase me than some internet bully. I've not forgotten the PM. I'm here to talk about this latest ORBX product. This is the fifth ORBX product and the only one I have a problem with. I have consistently explained my position with examples of my problems with my product and the obvious poor customer service from ORBX. I was genuinely shocked by my treatment at ORBX because as far as I knew the company had an exemlary record. Certainly the products this far had been great, as had But you aren't interested are you? You don't want me to discuss this product. I don't really understand why. But then having worked in both the internet and videogames industry for the last 14 years I tend not to be surprised by the behaviour of trolls. Fine, you don't want me to be here. You don't like me. You want to bully me. I can't be bothered. Got more important things to do. I'm going to read my children a bedtime story, uninstall ORBx England, start a paypal dispute then finish up my review of FTX England for my day job. Have a nice life. Shan't be chatting with you again.

Awwww bless your cotton socks. **** Right. Back onto the topic. Just tried FTX ENG again for the first time in a few days and found the area around Boscombe Down doesn't seem to betray the landlcass landslip that I've seen further south. Which makes it seem even more likely there's one chunk of the landclass (at least) that somehow got shifted in development. I wonder if the whole thing is a simple case of one number being fed in a tool somewhere that moved a whole region slightly off its moorings. That being said - that doesn't cover the sloppy haphazard bridges and other objects, but would at least explain the odd autogen problems. (thanks for the User Award BTW whoever gave me that!)

You can save a lot of money for going for an i5 3570K instead of an i7. For most uses - especially gaming - you'll notice no difference. i7 comes into its own for multithreading applications but unless you're planning to do lots of high end video editing and the like then you won't see the benefit. RAM is cheap, so 8GB minimum. I've just built a new system and put 16GB, just because it was inexpensive and I sometimes use high memory music software. But 8GB is a good figure to go for. As far as the GPU goes it really depends on the resolution you are planning to use. For 1080p then you don't need to go above a 660ti - the MSI Power Edition version of that card runs a mere six percent below a 670 for much less money and can be easily overclocked to match a 670. Good review here. If you are planning to run over 1080p with lots of full screen anti-aliasing then the 670 may be beneficial. Read the review I linked to and look at the benchmarks as it includes the 670.

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Amazing really. The rest of the games industry really wouldn't get away with that. Seems many flight sim devs use their forum as advertising. They want to present a happy forum full of satisfied customers as testament to the quality of the product. Renders a forum pointless - they may as well have a testimonials page instead.

Yes I could. But I realised I didn't want to read pages and pages of "Oh ORBX England is so great. I can't see what those silly people are criticising it for. It's so wonderful. You're new team isn't poorly trained and badly managed and has done such a great job. Those critics don't understand Flight Simulator and just want to see their own house in Flight Simulator. John, John my darling, have more of my money for your substandard products, kissy, kissy, kissy."

I only noticed the time when the few days were up. Suddenly realised it wasn't a date in November 2012, but 2013. My three year old has better control of his temper than John at ORBX.

"This is the first baby incubator from this medical company, so please don't complain if your baby isn't too happy." Yup. Charming isn't it?

Shush. It's people like you what cause unrest. Who said anything about perfect? Not complete with a massive error is an entirely different thing. Thank goodness that the customers of Boeing and Airbus don't think like that. Wings? Wings? No we're adding them in a patch later. I'm amazed that so many companies have apologists that are happy for them to release unfinished products, then actually attack paying customers for dissatisfaction. There seems something very wrong with that. No wonder the Flight Sim market is dying compared to ten years ago. It's become a ghetto with people happy to buy substandard products and defend to the hilt the companies willing to release them. Believe me such shoddy work would not stand in the mainstream games industry. Bethesda has rightly been completely lambasted for the poor quality of its PlayStation 3 version of Skyrim. I didn't see people popping up saying "oh people always complain, you can't expect games to be perfect". It just doesn't fly in the world outside this strange little forgotten corner of gaming that is flight sims.

I knew what I was buying too. I just wanted the landclass...you know...to be in the right place not a couple of miles away. For hundreds of square miles in the south west (and more widespread for all I know) the landclass is shifted away from the point it should be on the mesh and roads. As though a whole section has a simple error - rather than each village/town being placed wrongly. See what I mean? Like somewhere a whole section of the project got moved slightly in comparison with others. The places that are clearly wrong all seem to be the same distance and the same direction from where they should be. Which makes it seem this was the case, rather than individuals placing villages in the wrong place. They all seem the right distance apart, it's just like when one of my children pulls the table cloth a bit and all the place settings aren't quite where they should be. They didn't touch any of the plates, but now nothing is where it should be. It would have been just as easy or difficult for these things to be where they should be. Putting them where they should be is not a big ask, it is not asking for FSX to be rewritten or something amazing to occur like unicorns defecating rainbows across the sky. No, it would require the same accuracy and skills to place the landclass layer where it should, than where it shouldn't. The only thing it that would be different is that someone checked it, you know, to see if it wasn't completely wrong again. I think I have some kind of force field around me that prevents anyone actually reading the things I say. I explain my position and folks keep going "But mate, your house isn't going to be in the game". I give up. I'm a bit narked because I spent some money on FTX ENG and my house isn't in the game. I can't see my car or my garden. I thought this thing was going to be accurate. Surely my house should be in the game. ORBX is evil, my house isn't in the game. Or my local supermarket, or my shed. I wanted to fly around in tiny little circles just above my house, tight little circles so I could watch my virtual garden grow, but now I can't because ORBX is evil.

Sad really. Oh well. Will launched Paypal dispute I think. And writing something more visible elsewhere too.

Oh believe me they won't get another penny from me. The Flight Sim Store sent me an email this week advertising FTX England. It included as a feature "- Hand placed super-accurate autogen"

Just discovered my "temp" forum ban from ORBX for daring to question the quality of FTX ENG is a whole year. Yes folks, the boss of the company really is that childish. I wonder what the consumer rights law on this is. Essentially I'm being denied the regular avenue to technical support for a product I have paid for. Perhaps I should seek a refund if the company is not willing to offer future support to my purchase.