>> The systems are programmed according to the manufacturer'sspecificationsAs the AP routines also belong to the systems, does the above stand also for autopilot behaviour ? Did you guys develop your own AP routines or are you using the MS default AP routines ?Sorry to ask this, but I have seen so many big jet Addons already (except 767PIC) that e.g. use a 5-6000 fpm climb/descent when a 2000 ft altitude change is dialed and FLCH used. Or >20 deg bank angles for a small heading change. Or oscillating N1 modes. Or S-turns around the localizer due to poor MS default turn anticipation.Would be great if you have found a workaround for this. Smooth routines ? Bank angle limiter ? All the eye-candy is nice, but it's important your passengers are not flooded with tomate juice or other stuff due to rough plane behaviour :)Sorry if this has been asked before, no time to browse through all the messages.Michael

Yeah I agree with this question. I have a certain 737 panel that when requesting a climb from the autopilot.FD it automatically dials in a 1800fpm climb and goes straight away nose up. Another 737 panel I have allows you to select the altitude and then the VS, i think this how the real autopilot works. What will this one do?Thank you for all your hard work on this! I cant wait!Simon Lloyd

Hello guysI don't have to be a member of PMDG to answer this question. :)With that level of accuracy PMDG is developing, they sure have also their own autopilot, since the one from MS would never be capable of handling the system complexity of PMDG's products.Best regards,Markus Burkhard

Simon-One of the things we strive for is accuracy in airplane response and handling. As such we have invested a tremendous amount of time and effort into replacing the autopilot, autothrottles and other default MSFS capability.The airplane won't disappoint. Even when flying on the A/P....

Robert,>> we strive for is accuracy in airplane response and handlingthat sounds very promising indeed, thanks for the answer ! It is refreshing to hear there are developers that don't forget we have a flightsimulator and not an eye-candy or knob/button simulator ;).Mike

Hey, So will it have the quirks of the real 737NG too? The NG Autopilot has been known for beeing rough!!

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Matthew,>> The NG Autopilot has been known for beeing roughwhat exactly are your referring to, any particular mode ? Just for interest, I'll ask one of the Hapag-Lloyd -8K5 drivers at the local airport and they might ask back, what I mean with "rough"Mike

I can tell you normally FLCH is not used for altitude changes that small, it's even mentioned in the type Rating training that for 'small' level changes, VS is much more often used and effective.FLCH is only for the larger climbs.Cheers

Hey, By "rough" I mean that it can be a bit "aggressive" if you will in certain modes (can't remember the modes). It's the odd occurance. I would have to find a reference for you, where I was reading about it.

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Matthew and Lenny-you're both talking about the behaviour of the roll controller. This real-world behaviour (talked about both in Bill Bulfer's excellent 737NG Companion book and also in various PPRuNe forae) is something that the default MS 737-400 also exhibits (notice the g-loading when turning using the default roll controller ;-) ).We've been discussing this matter with several of our "advisor" real-world 737 captains. We're torn between modelling it as is in reality, or actually making it as "wished" by our real-world captain friends ;-).We'll let you know of the outcome while beta-testing! ;-)Cheers,

Hey Again, If your actually making it based upon the "Wished Comments" from your "Real-World Captain Friends" it kinda defeats the purpose of pmDG in that you strive for realism, and wishes ain't realism. I say model it to how it is in reality!!

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I agree with Matthew - go for realism, above all else!- Bill Ruppel

Hey, I didn't (don't) want to get on the wrong side of pmDG, since I am a suporter and all. The reason I support pmDG is that there aim has always been to make everything as real as possible, raise that bar that little bit higher. I got the feeling that you were debating over how your "testers" think it should fly, and how it actually flies. I couldn't care personally what the tester think as long as it is as real as possible (within the limits of FS)..and wishes aren't real!

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Matthew-I'm with you!To h$LL with the testers!Oh...wait- that wasn't what you meant exactly... :-coolWe are MOST concerned that the airplane fly as it does in the real world. That does involve a terrific amount of "feedback interpretation" from those who help test fly the airplane. It also involves quite a bit of empiricle work- and a few minor tweaks...Either way- I think the end result will be quite nice!I'm not sure what all the whining is from all the 737 pilots, either. :-LOL The J-41 exhibits the same behavior when LNAV rolls to 30 degrees bank for turns while on LNAV. I've found it is a pretty good way to keep the stomach muscles in shape without having to do situps... just push against the G's..... GRRRRRRRRRRRR...... :-LOL

>Hey,> So will it have the quirks of the real 737NG too? The NG>Autopilot has been known for beeing rough!!>>>

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Attempting to line up on the Localiser!Left, and right, Left and Right.... :)-Sean.