I am interested in VHHH - RJAA route, but I cannot find the SIDS/STARS flight charts. Thanks, Mukesh

>I am interested in VHHH - RJAA route, but I cannot find the>SIDS/STARS flight charts.>>> Thanks,> MukeshHi Mukesh,here are the two requested airports. These two files are from the upcoming new revision 2 of the PMDG AIRAC 0708, which will be include all worldwide published terminal procedures.Have fun,Rich

Go to http://www.rfinder.asalink.net/free/ to get the closest thing to a real world route, then go to VATSIM's 'hong kong' FIR site to get the charts (outdated-but works ok and very hard to find outside of VATSIM) you'll need for the SID's. RJAA I'm not sure about, still haven't explored real world stuff for most of Asia.Choose the correct SID for the VHHH RWY(s) you're going to use based on winds, etc.; and ending SID WPT that lines up with your first flight plan WPT.Put that route into http://www.simroutes.com 'generate' route function and kick out your new flight plan and download the plan in FS2004 format so you can then import into Active Sky for your weather, fix by fix, etc. Now use your new terminal procedures for the PMDG and you'll know which procedure to select rather then guessing by looking in the FMC and using the ND to see if they're somewhat correct...lol.Hope that helps you. :-)

I recently developed SIDSTAR procedures for RJAA, based on Overland Japan's scenery for this location (Vol 3). In AVSIM it is file rjaa_sidstars.zip; or you can get it from http://navdata.atUnlike most procedures, these use N if landing South and S if landing North. The designator is used to indicate direction arriving from. Also, some of the departures to the North require teardrop patterns (that are included in my procedures). Hope this helps.