Hi guy`s l`ve just bought a AMD 3700 san deiago... with 1 gig mem and a PX7800gtx... with the amd with the tweaking what seeting sghould l try it at... in the bios l have it set at 220 also when l tweak it in the bios does it restart over and over again till it`s tweaked? Thanks guys.Paul

First things first... slow down before one of your new components goes "poof".Please list your system specs, including motherboard and memory (manufacturer and model), sound card, any other PCI cards, cooling and case info, PSU, monitor.Thanks,Greg

Ok bud here we go... AMD San deiago 37001 gig mem ddr 400 GA-K8NF-9 motherboardon board sound cardPCI express Nvidia PX7800 GTX 256megThermaltake soprano case with 430watt power supplyDL dvd burnercooling on door, Back of case, Power supply, Cpu and video cardMonitor 21`` widescreen HP monitor.l hope this all helpsl didn`t want to stuff it up.... Thanks for all you helpPaulOn Flightsim....l have most things maxed out with some stutters... l have AA x8 and Anti X8.. Thanks

Thanks for the additional info, though the memory brand and model number is important. Also, I forgot to mention your hard drive(s).Since you have an NF4 board your overclocking goal is simple... go for raw speed. Because the AMD 64 CPU's have an on die memory controller the memory bus speed isn't as important (more on this later) as max speed of the system.There are plenty of resources on the net about overclocking, so I won't go into great detail here. Eventhough you can leave the multiplier at it's stock setting and add a bit of FSB, what you'd really like to do is increase the FSB as far as the system will allow and still be stable. You would of course have to lower the multiplier. Case in point, take my FX-57. It's stock multiplier is 14 but I run it at 11 because my memory can easily handle a FSB of 273. 11 X 273 = 3.0Ghz you see in my sig. Being able to run the high FSB affords me high memory bandwidth and high system speed. The best of both worlds, but finding the sweet spot is not something that is done quickly.Which brings us to the most important aspect of overclocking: testing. Having a nice overclock is meaningless if the system isn't stable. There are numerous stress testers available, many of them free. The most important stress test is your favorite games (MSFS is an excellant stress tester). All this testing takes time, and copius notes always prove to be invaluable.Finally, I urge you to find enthusiast sites that focus on your motherboard. Doing so will yield much useful info such as preferred BIOS, quirks (all motherboards have them), and the support of other owners.Some things to keep in mind... do not install the NF4 IDE drivers that came with your board. If you've had them installed for a while and not had any problems then good luck. The drivers can cause problems and aren't any better than the Windows drivers. The nVidia Firewall is a waste of time and can do some goofy things as well. Load the SMBus drivers and any peripheral drivers (sound, LAN, etc) you need. If you have multiple SATA drives don't waste your time (and possibly your patience) setting up a RAID array unless the goal is redundancy. While this is an older article on overclocking it offers some basic info to get you started. There is of course many, many other sources available through a Google search. Find some you're comfortable with... and have fun!Good luck,Greg

Thanks bro l`ll try it out... Thanks for your great timePaul

Greg,Good information for an OC newbie there, and I agree with what you say.Paul,Please report back on what you achieve. I have the same CPU (A3700+ San Diego), but mine's on an Asus A8N-E Ultra mobo, and I haven't overclocked it yet. I have a nice Zalman CNPS 7000 AlCu cooler, but the airflow in my case sucks (despite two case fans).I'd be interested in how high you push your CPU, as I'm told the San Diego is a top performer for overclocking.

Recommend d/ling cpuz from here:http://www.cpuid.org/cpuz.phpprovides good info for clocking or just comparing systems.scott s..

>>Please report back on what you achieve. I have the same CPU>(A3700+ San Diego), but mine's on an Asus A8N-E Ultra mobo,>and I haven't overclocked it yet. I have a nice Zalman CNPS>7000 AlCu cooler, but the airflow in my case sucks (despite>two case fans).>Jock n a frock: How do you know your airflow sucks? What idle and load cpu temps are you seeing?I too have an Asus A8N-E (never heard of "ultra" and I just bought it two months ago) and a 3700+. That heart is in a Coolermaster Praetorian case. I get idle of 31 degC and a load temp of 48 degC.

I have a cheap and nasty case with limited inlets from the front. Also, the drive cables tend to obstruct the path of the airflow.When finances permit, I might invest in an Antec P180 case. As well as looking very nice, they have insulated the PSU in its own compartment at the bottom of the tower. I hear good things about this case.My CPU temperatures are about 36c idling and 55c under load (FS9, Doom 3, Far Cry etc). This is with the Zalman CPU cooler on it's slowest speed, about 1350rpm and practically silent. I have removed the horribly noisy chipset fan from my motherboard and fitted a Zalman passive cooler to the chip. This has the same cooling effect, and my chipset temperature stays at a pretty constant 42c.Nothing is overclocked, and there's also a Radeon X800 GTO card in there, along with two hard drives and two optical drives.I get great performance in FS9 and the latest 3D games, but since my chip is a San Diego core, I might want to overclock it in the future. The San Diego is supposed to have the best overclocking potential of the AMD single core range.BTW, my PC is sitting right in front of a radiator, and I'm sure that doesn't help. :(

Just a heads up for ye ..I had been using a 1.2GHz PIII 'Taltulin' chip OC'd to 1.4GHz for about 3yrs with Fs8 and 9 and together with an ATI 9800 (flashed to XT) I got great results but then the time finally came when a little stablilty in my mad life ment I could finally enter a new level, here's my geeky story :)I purchased a Sanny 3700+, Epox mobo with SATAII and PCI-E so also got a frotron 400W PSU and 6800XT PCI-E card together with some Kinbston 'Value RAM'I really was frugal, could spend a fortune so after

Yeah, that's why I bought a 3700+ San Diego. Best bang for the buck and also great o/c potential. A good stop-gap cpu for this transition period between single-core and dual-core.A person could wait until the M2 socket comes out, and until FSX comes out...but if you are running something really old, then you can build a pretty solid San Diego system for under $1000 (even less if you re-use components) to tide-you-over until dual-core drops in price and gets more advanced and until FSX comes out.I think a 3700+ is a better buy than a 3200+ Venice, in fact...because a SD core will have more longevity than the Venice. Although the good argument can be made that you can build a great rig with a 3200+ for cheap.Rhett