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Triple monitor setup help please

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I have a 4 monitor setup with 3 across and one below in middle under the center monitor. 1 AGP card and 1 PCI card. The left monitor is forward/left, the right is forward/right, and center is forward.Question, I notice that on some of my aircraft, the horizon lines up pretty good all the way across. But on some, it is not good, the center seems to not be able to line up the horizon. Its either to high or to low. Also, the screens don't quite match up along the edges near the center monitor. For example, as I turn while taxiing, I can see the same object on both screens for a moment as it passes across them. All zooms are 1. I can adjust seat height up and down on center/main monitor, but not on sides. The lone monitor on the bottom displays the 2d panel and some other undocked gauges.Both cards are ATI. I'm guessing that these screen sizes can be edited? Could anyone tell me where that might be?Thanks,Bill Clinton

Bill- At last it's nice to hear from another simmer using triple views!! A 180

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Perfect!. Just what I was looking for. I'll check it out and get back to you.But, during my reading on this topic in the forum I have run across your reference to that screenshot location and am unable to pull it up. Can you post a direct link to that screenshot?I just finished the major re-config on my simpit and am quite pleased with the result. 3 19" LCD across the top and a 17" LCD below for the panel. The panoramic view helps tremendously in landing.I did have to order a better PCI card due to low frame rates on the right monitor. Waiting on it to arrive from Newegg. Hope that gets me better than 9-10 in airports and 15 in the air. FPS are 25 until I spread that 3rd view over to the PCI output. If you have any tips on helping that situation, please let me know. My simpit config is setup for the TripHTG later on when I change over to Nvidia cards and a new dual core box. ATI doesnt work very well the Matrox as I understand. Again, that info is just what I was looking for. Mucho appreciated.BTW, just flew into CYYJ last night on my VA route.One more question, which monitor have you set as the main monitor in your setup? I use the center top and seem to have to re-set the left view every time I load a flight. It returns to forward each time I switch planes or start the sim. My views are setup with main in the middle, view1 is the left and view 2 is the right.Thanks,BC

Great info -- triple monitors rock, but it took me forever to figure out how to line them all up!! Once accomplished, I simply can't believe how much more I now enjoy an already awesome hobby! What should I do with my Track IR Pro, now though? :-wave Either of you guys ever find a payware AI Traffic program that will span WideView?Thanks.Chuck

Smooth Skies! -- Chuck B.

 

MACHINE 1:FS2004/WinXP Pro 64, Intel Core 2 Duo E8600 Clocked to 4.35 GHz, Corsair H50, Asus Maximus Formula, 4GB PNY XLR8 DDR2 @1067, ATI 4870 and 4650, WD Raptor 10K RPM 160 GB HD, Seagate 500 mgb 32mgb cache, 2 Analog 2HTGs w/ 3 19" I-INC flat panel monitors 1280x1024x32, and 1 17" at 1280 x 1024, PC Silencer 750 Quad, FSPassengers, FSUPIC, (Payware), WideFS

MACHINE 2: Dell Dimension, P4, WideClient, FDC Live Cockpit, Pro Flight Emulator, Active Sky v6.5

MACHINE 3: ASUS u81A Laptop, Windows 7 (what a joke!), WideClient, FlightSim Commander

Good morning BC- Hope those settings work for you. When you get it right, the effect of what I call Wide Horizon, is stunning. Makes single monitor simming look like a kid's game. It is so simple, I don't understand why it isn't standard practice. As I observed, try driving your car with the only glimpse of the outside world being thru' a single monitor where the windshield used to be!!!The screenshots I mentioned are now 5 or 6 pages back in that forum- work backwards 5 pages- heading "Multi monitor/triple views" #259957- June 27. or send your Email in a private message and I'll forward some pics.My system is an AMD XP2200 1.8GHz,1.28GB ram, a Dual Head AGP GeForceFX5200 card and a PCI GeForceFX5200 card. Pretty ancient stuff but works well with mid range FS9 settings. Going from .768 to 1.28 GB RAM increased FPS by at least 20%. Fps are generally in the 13-25 range with most popups displayed (incl dual CDUs with PMDG 747) but in heavy cloud or at night at busy airports can drop below 10. There are NO stutters and as a result it is quite flyable right down to about 5 FPS !! Weird! I'm speculating that the posted FPS is really the TRUE FPS divided by 3!The mandatory setting to eliminate all trace of stutter was to retard the Hardware Accel sliders 2 notches for the secondary (outer) monitors. Virtual memory is set to Let System Manage, FPS is set to Unlimited and NEVER let a view overlap onto an adjacent monitor! I don't place popups on the PCI card monitor- causes a FPS hit, but Kneeboard works fine on the PCI monitor with no penalty ! Strange.Don't know a great deal about TH2Go- as I understand, it stretches the single 90

Good morning BC- Hope those settings work for you. When you get it right, the effect of what I call Wide Horizon, is stunning. Makes single monitor simming look like a kid's game. It is so simple, I don't understand why it isn't standard practice. As I observed, try driving your car with the only glimpse of the outside world being thru' a single monitor where the windshield used to be!!!The screenshots I mentioned are now 5 or 6 pages back in that forum- work backwards 5 pages- heading "Multi monitor/triple views" #259957- June 27. or send your Email in a private message and I'll forward some pics.My system is an AMD XP2200 1.8GHz,1.28GB ram, a Dual Head AGP GeForceFX5200 card and a PCI GeForceFX5200 card. Pretty ancient stuff but works well with mid range FS9 settings. Going from .768 to 1.28 GB RAM increased FPS by at least 20%. Fps are generally in the 13-25 range with most popups displayed (incl dual CDUs with PMDG 747) but in heavy cloud or at night at busy airports can drop below 10. There are NO stutters and as a result it is quite flyable right down to about 5 FPS !! Weird! I'm speculating that the posted FPS is really the TRUE FPS divided by 3!The mandatory setting to eliminate all trace of stutter was to retard the Hardware Accel sliders 2 notches for the secondary (outer) monitors. Virtual memory is set to Let System Manage, FPS is set to Unlimited and NEVER let a view overlap onto an adjacent monitor! I don't place popups on the PCI card monitor- causes a FPS hit, but Kneeboard works fine on the PCI monitor with no penalty ! Strange.Don't know a great deal about TH2Go- as I understand, it stretches the single 90

Apology for the double post- first post seemed to hang up.Sorry- AR

'Morning Chuck (Trelane)- Sorry to take so long to answer your July 7 response to my Triple Views post. Afraid I can't help re your AI query. With my ancient processor, I turn AI fairly low to preserve FPS and so have little to no expertise on AI Traffic.Track IR Pro? Guess it's a museum piece once you've got a 180

Good afternoon, Alex!I'm using two monitors on my new Dell dual core - a 17 inch and a 15 incher -- with the desktop spanning both monitors (as opposed to running both independently) and it runs great, with all sliders maxed and AI at 75% ! Best investment I've ever made! FSX even runs pretty well on two screens, although FS2004 just sings. Treat yourself if you can -- 75 years young? What are you saving your money for -- to give it to your kids?? LOL!!And as I understand it, FS2004 does not include the SimConnect functionality which is critical for AI traffic across multiple machines to work. That is a NEW feature of FSX. Thanks to Reggie Fields in KADS, Addison, TX, for the explanation!Best regards and smooth skies!Chuck B.KPHL, KVAY

Smooth Skies! -- Chuck B.

 

MACHINE 1:FS2004/WinXP Pro 64, Intel Core 2 Duo E8600 Clocked to 4.35 GHz, Corsair H50, Asus Maximus Formula, 4GB PNY XLR8 DDR2 @1067, ATI 4870 and 4650, WD Raptor 10K RPM 160 GB HD, Seagate 500 mgb 32mgb cache, 2 Analog 2HTGs w/ 3 19" I-INC flat panel monitors 1280x1024x32, and 1 17" at 1280 x 1024, PC Silencer 750 Quad, FSPassengers, FSUPIC, (Payware), WideFS

MACHINE 2: Dell Dimension, P4, WideClient, FDC Live Cockpit, Pro Flight Emulator, Active Sky v6.5

MACHINE 3: ASUS u81A Laptop, Windows 7 (what a joke!), WideClient, FlightSim Commander

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Alex, perfect. I have started those edits in the panel file and they are spot on. Now for just a bit of tweaking. Just for future readers, you must have a space in between each parameter.0.000, 1.000, 50.000That works perfect for me.Back to FPS discussion though.As soon as I slide the view over on my right monitor, the fps go from 20 to 7-9. Thats the PCI monitor. I ordered a better one. Maybe that will help. I did play with all the adjustments I could but nothing helps.I have an ATIX1600 for the AGP, a decent card.And a 1550 for the PCI, I think a bit low. I'm replacing that with a 1550Pro 256mb PCI card. That was about the best I could find.I really prefer the Geforce cards as they handle multi-monitors much better. but I ended up in this direction for some other game I needed to play. LOLI'm planning on building a new box this fall/winter for the switch over to FSx. So, not much more that I will do to this system. Its flyable now, but I sure miss that nice fluid 25+ FPS all around.Thanks Alex, hope this thread helps some others...

Kimchoc- Yes, I think you need a decent PCI card to balance the AGP- I assume your AGP card is a Dual Head? My original multi monitor experiments date back to the 2000 MICROWINGS conference in Seattle (same hotel as for this year's AVSIM conference!). Matrox had a demo using their G400 card and I was hooked- rushed out & bought one and have wondered ever since why anyone would sim with a single monitor! Soon after, a friend brought me an old S3 card and an ancient 12"CRT from a bank teller station- triple monitors! But not triple views- that had to wait for a new AMD system 4 yrs ago with a GeForce DualHead FX5200 card. Now the point of this boring history is that the very,very old S3 was terrible in this new config, which led then to a PCI GeforceFX5200 card to match. So I think I'm safe in saying that multi monitor vid cards must have a compatibility factor. Try retarding the Hardware Accel sliders (2 notches) for your secondary monitors (in Display Settings)- worked for me. Also set FPS=unlimited. (if you're set for ex. to 30, I think "10" is all you will "see" in triple monitor mode. I also have a key mapped to REFRESH SCENERY and a periodic tap- espec before landing really rejuvenates FPS. You mention "fluid 25 fps"- I'm puzzled because I'm fluid (smooth-no jerks, pauses) right down to an amazing 5 fps. The trick with the HDWE ACCEL sliders seems to eliminate data competition between the vid cards and allows an optimized? data flow between them. This was sure the magic bullet for me.By the way, in that early Matrox demo, they didn't have Bezel Width Compensation - I've just read that the new TH2Go does have it at last! Wonder if it adjusts for varying bezel widths per our conversations?Cheers Alex Reid CYYJ

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Yes, I am set at 25fps. As I understand it, this prevents certain sceneries from loading and slowing down the FPS. It blocks them as I understand and allows you to have 25 FPS. I do get 25 while up at altitude, its when going into the airports. I did try sliding down the harware sliders but the sim CTD'd very often.Problem is with these cards, I con only use the drivers for the PCI card. if I update them to the latest ATI drivers for the AGP card, FS says it cannot recog the PCI card and the sim goes into software mode with no adjustments for the PCI card. I believe this an ATI fault. The new card coming in will allow for the latest drivers.yes, both cards have dual outputs. The AGP drives center and left views. The PCI drives right view and the lower monitor where I dock the instrument panel. I have also been using multi monitors for years. First was just two and move over the panel to have an unobstructed view out the "window". Awesome.Then I went to this config:http://www.eecherrors.homestead.com/updown.jpghttp://www.eecherrors.homestead.com/controls.jpghttp://www.eecherrors.homestead.com/latestpic2.jpgThen finally to the picture from just today. Notice the perfectly aligned horizon due to your help!!I still have to assemble a lot more of the pit. I have switch panels I made from scratch and a trim wheel. Need to make an overhead panel and a few more things.BTW, let me add this tip for other viewers of this thread, just copy the text from the panel.cfg once you get it right and put it in your other planes. Actually, my planes didnt even have that section. I had to put it in form scratch. Its a good starting point and you don't have to do so much work on each one. Worked for me on several of my favorite planes.

WOW- Terrific Pics! Anyone who is sceptical about the value of multi monitors should see these!Regards Alex Reid

Hello:I hope this is OK.I have had 3 monitors for a few months now, and have been aware that this may or may not have caused a reduction in frame rates. What I do is start FS9 then use the S key to set up a spot view. Then with the menu across the pot I choose the panel selection and basically drag it to the second monitor. The 3rd monitor is what I use for FSNAV.Agian I am sure I am way off base. Thus, is there any advise from you follow simmers that are in the know. Thank you.Mark.

Hi Mark- You are definitely On base! This is the place to ask for help. Yes, multi monitors may seem to cause a FPS reduction- your processor is computing and displaying a lot more info than for a single monitor.My triple monitor FPS(displayed) is 1/3 of single monitor FPS. However that's not the whole story- the settings I've found give me totally smooth performance, no stutters, and real flyability right down to as low as 5 FPS!! Mostly I turn off FPS display and ignore it - who cares as long as it's nicely flyable. Perhaps some gurus can explain this phenomenon. My screens are as follows: (all three horizontally aligned)Left- View Left Fwd - sometimes also Kneeboard (a key is mapped to open/close it)Centre- View Forward plus the 2D Instrument PanelRight- View Right Forward plus most/all? gauge popups opened for instant use. This includes dual CDUs for PMDG 747. I try to align them with the main panel glareshield- simulates a wider panel. When it gets crowded, I overlap some sub panels- but leave an edge of each displayed so that a click on it brings that popup to the front. This setup gives a 180

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