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PIC 767 is still finest commercial jet available....

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I purchased the FS2002 version of PIC almost two years ago. I also own most commercial jets available both as free and pay ware.I my opinion, the PIC 767 is STILL the most complete, accurate and consistent commercial jet simulator available. From frame rates to instrument smoothness to malfunctions to an FMC complete enough to use the Bulfer and Gifford FMC User

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Without a doubt, its still one of the only aircraft I can use real world boeing manuals and fly by the numbers and expect it to work as advertised. The flight director alone is worth the price of admision.

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I flew it for the first time in months last weekend and was again surprised how great it still is - despite all the other advancements that have been made recently. It is soooo smooth and just the right compromise of realism and FS practicality. It's really a shame there is no VC to complement it - even one with nonfunctional gauges. I know those hardcore IFR/heavy metal fans without TrackIR will disagree but that would really make it for me. A GMax model would really bring it up to date. I'm still not clever enough to try the POSKY merge.:-)David

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I really recommend the Iron Knuckles DC-9 as well. It makes a very good companion to the PIC 767, contrasting the pre-computer era with the 767 which, along with the 757, was in the first generation of glass cockpit jetliners.The fidelity is wonderful - you can fly it with the actual operating manuals and speed cards from real world airlines - and you get a real sense of accomplishment when you fly a complex STAR by hand and put the plane down where it's supposed to go. The plane is also rock steady and a dream to fly and with text-o-matic, you can add liveries at will (something I wish that Phoenix would do), and Flight 1's support is excellent. So, those are my votes.

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The POSKY merge is a piece of cake. Don't be intimadated by the page of instructions. Instead of grimacing, you will love hitting the "s" key.

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767 PIC is still the best I havent seen one addon as good as 767 PIC. I doubt A320 PIC will take 767 PICs place. I wonder what the 767 PIC teams next project is? I want to see a 747-400 with that kind of quality.

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I couldn't agree more Bob. The autopilot alone makes it worth the investment. Nothing else is even in the same league. I, too, own them all, and the 767PIC is the only one left on the HDD that's used regularly.Doug

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i so so agree with this...i own em all....but i only fly one.....if you've seen it handling a stiff crosswind,you know why...this cd should be goldplated.....fs2k2 is going to be on my system for a long loooong time...........

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yeah when the old Mad Dog got outdated I switched to 767 PIC and haven't found anything better to fly yet.But i do hope that the team works on a shorter range plane with the same quality (737?). I find that the ideal cruise time for a flight simulator session is between 1-2 hrs.

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Not to sound like a broken record, but I totally agre with what is being said here.PIC767 is by far the best panel available for MSFS. From the various gauge/carrier options to the FMC, the PIC767 is about as real as you can get to flying the real thing. Coupled with POSKY's 762 and 763 GMAX models, there's no better overall aircraft package for MSFS.Ryan-Flightpro08 :-cool VATSIM Pilot/ControllerZLA ARTCC Senior Controller (C-3)ASRC (Advanced Simulated Radar Client) Beta Tester-----------------------------My "Home Made" System Specs:Intel Pentium 4 2.2GHz ProcessorTurbo Gamer ATX Mid-Tower with 420W Power SupplyEPoX 4G4A Motherboard with Intel 845G ChipsetVisiontek XTASY GeForce4 128MB Ti4600 (Det 42.01 Drivers)512MB PC2100 DDR RAM40GB Matrox 7200RPM Hard DriveWindows XP Home Edition SP1*No CPU or GPU Overclocking*3dMark2001SE Score: 11298-----------------------------Click Here to Download my American Eagle POSKY CRJ-200!

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Can't agree more !!! PIC767 is by far the best add-on for FS. Don't know how many hours have I spent with this marvelous a/c. (I certainly have tried almost all others ... but always return to PIC)...GMora

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I wrote a small Posky/PIC Merge "How Too" if you are interested. It is very simple to follow and in fact the reason I made it was that the Readme for the original file is a little hard to figure out for some. Here's the link : http://ftp.avsim.com/cgi-bin/dcforum/dcboa...rum=DCForumID33 I also have the only working VFR panel with Landing Lights and rain effects showing from the panel. Here is a list of things: This setup features:Viewable landing lights in the landing viewRain/Snow effects in the landing viewConsistency with the default PIC panelEasy switching between viewsSticking of the landing viewNicely integrated taxi light switch placement777 Audio Gauge on the pedistalOne button (programmable controllers only) toggle between the viewsEasy installation and removal without risk of reinstalling PICBest Wishes,Randy J. Smithcrvm@sbcglobal.net" A little learning is a dangerous thing"

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Hi!Is your VFR view available for downloading? Looks great!!BobP :)

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This has been my offering to the 767 PIC legacy... panel and sound updates soon.Best Regards,Phil Geddes

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maybe the sim software workshop Airbus A310 will be the next legent, www.simsoftworkshop.com

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The only drawback with PIC767 is the poor sound. The gear down wind noise sounds like a broken record but unfortunately that sound is built in to the gauge.

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"The gear down wind noise sounds like a broken record "That is SO true. I have complained about that "broken record" noise in the past but it fell on deaf ears (no pun intended).Actually, you can do something about this annoyance by editing the gauge file - you process the entire file as if it were a sound file and just trim/edit/reprocess the sound for the gear down. It is not easy to do because it is an imbedded wav file within the data and you could mess things up, but it is correctable.See ya,Kathy.Born to Fly.My Dad, Me, My Son.____________________http://ftp.avsim.com/dcforum/User_files/3e26e1091e4b0d96.jpg

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Hello BobCan you tell me what exactly this program is you are referring to and where you got it? Do you know if it is still available?Thanks

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I can't believe I never bought this plane. I have almost every other one. I never have bought it beacause I like instant gratification when it comes to planes (read: downloadable). I guess I will have to buy it and wait.-------------Michael

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Hi!The publisher is Wilco. Follow the link to products. http://www.wilcopub.com/intro.htm and look for 767 Pilot In Command (PIC). Also check out the forum 767 Pilot in Command Forum here at AVSIM.It is not available for download and can be ordered direct from Wilco or a reseller such as AVSIM. I am not sure who has it in stock.Have fun!BobP :)

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they would release it via download. It's probably relatively small compared to more recent products. You'll love PIC767 - then get a couple extra monitors and love it even more!David

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Thanks for your reply Bob............I feel a little silly now because I just obtained a copy of that program from a friend but havn't had a chance to install it. I didn't realize what the PIC meant.daaaaaaaaaaaa Anyways, any recommendations about setting PIC up for FS 2002?Richard (Vancouver Island)

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>Wonder if we will >see a better commercial jet in 2003? >Maybe not a jet but Piper Meridian looks like it will take PIC's place in terms of the new overall standard.I also love the PIC but I believe it will start showing its age within a few months. First it is just the panel graphics. They are not too great. I have been using the Fresnel lens with FLY!2k and it does wonders to realism but the PIC panel is simply of too poor quality to get magnified. I was not too happy when I discovered that. And then there is this thing about the instrument smoothness. True, PIC767 is remarkably well behaved add-on even on lesser machines but I have seen what Reality-XP has in store in terms of smooth gauges and I am afraid even the PIC will no longer be good enough. But we will know for sure in about a month .....Michael J.

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Yes I agree, PIC is out dated in terms of looks, but What about the realistic systems modelling, accurate FMC, air file...PIC is nearly 2 years old and no designer has still made a simulator for fs with this kind of realism and functionality.

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