Yes honestly - keys for the "needy" ;)My reasons can be found in this threadhttp://forums.avsim.net/dcboard.php?az=sho...id=18748&page=2Lars

please tell me that if you do not have a beta key you cannot have a virtual cockpit on imported aircraft. I just tried it with three FS9 aircraft and it has disabled the virtual cockpit feature on all three of them. One more reason the demo is more inclusive than a beta.

>please tell me that if you do not have a beta key you cannot>have a virtual cockpit on imported aircraft. I just tried it>with three FS9 aircraft and it has disabled the virtual>cockpit feature on all three of them. One more reason the demo>is more inclusive than a beta.Offtopic, but there is a line of code you have to add to your aircraft's cfg file to get the virtual cockpit to work.

>please tell me that if you do not have a beta key you cannot>have a virtual cockpit on imported aircraft. I just tried it>with three FS9 aircraft and it has disabled the virtual>cockpit feature on all three of them. One more reason the demo>is more inclusive than a beta.This is a bug and is confined to beta 3. I believe it has been fixed since that beta.

Firstly: It is definitely not green pastures. I have the same bug-riddled demo-era beta that everyone else has. It took me 4 days just to get it to install (mainly my PC can't handle the size), and it doesn't run for 20 minutes without crashing my 4-year-old computer. It might as well be time-limited.Secondly: As I've said elsewhere, you've paid for a ticket to a baseball game on "free hat day" just to get the free hat, *while supplies last. Now you're demanding a refund for your game ticket because they ran out of free hats. MS didn't have to give a beta to the public at all. And as some on this forum have said, they shouldn't have bothered anyway, since I doubt they'll be able to gain any refinement of the product out of it.I don't get why everyone feels so entitled just because they paid money for something that the site said in plain English, with nice little asteriskses and everything, they may not get. What if it had been a lottery? I almost think that would have gone more smoothly. People understand that better. This is actually better than a lottery. Everyone who paid $7 or whatever FP package they got actually got a real product out of it, whether that's what they were after or not.And this time-limted beta. Was it fileplanet's idea? Was it Microsofts? It sounds more like something that somebody stumbled upon, as a result of the fact that MS has incorporated a time-limited "product activation" protection in almost every program they have made for the last 5 years.I also don't understand why everyone who doesn't have this beta thinks it's the second coming. It's a beta - it's slow, buggy, unpolished, and most importantly, in about 30 days it's not going to be more than a memory anyway.Forgive my rants; it's not in my character, but I'm constantly perplexed by the outcries of foul play and injustice by the FS community over this beta. Fileplanet has used this business practice for years and I've never seen this intensity of grumbling, and belive me, if anyone thought the avsim community was harsh, you should see the first person shooter or MMORPG communities.I'm a very open-minded person. If someone could actually show me what is being done by MS to wrong the innocent citizens of the FS community by not, in essence, giving the entire world a free, unlimited, fully-featured, near-(but hopefully not too near)complete beta version of a piece of software that people have put thousands of man hours into, without simply spending 5 paragraphs rephrasing the point "I paid 10 bucks, I'm entitled", by all means, I'm listening.Yes I have the beta. My life is fulfilled and yours is meaningless. If only you were lucky enough to get this *3 seconds per frame* test version as I am.It is easy for you to sit in your den, bedroom, or basement, and dictate what is logical in your mind. "If only MS had done it this way, I would have a better chance at playing a bigger demo." MS is busy making the sim. They wanted to give to the community, or get more publicity, by having a more public, but still closed, beta. As tdragger has said, they don't have the logistical capability for such a thing (assuming MS's own public beta infrastructure is bogged down in Vista RC testing). Fileplanet does have an infrastructure for game betas however, so they go by their time-tested system. They now have a way to get more exposure to the general gaming public without redirecting too much of their development efforts, and can therefore still get the sim on the shelves in time. Seems very logical to me.Still doesn't make sense? Think of it this way. MS decides to have a public beta, but can only logitstically offer it via the Internet. You don't have the Internet, and unless you're a student, you still have to pay for that (and even students still do indirectly). The Internet is the only way to have a chance at getting the beta, so you sign up with an ISP just to get a chance at a key. You don't get one; now do you complain that you should have a beta key, just because you had to pay for the Internet in order to have a chance at it? Do you think it would have been more logical for Microsoft to have sign-up kiosks at software stores complete with beta DVDs, despite the logistical nightmare that would have been? Using this example, are you any more or less entitled to a beta key than if you had paid for Fileplanet? Fileplanet's just a service, like the Internet, that gives you faster access to things, and in some cases, access to things you might not be able to get in other ways.This has been a long post, and I'm sure I've incorrectly assumed that I've corrected all the "wrong" opinions of the other users of this forum. Sometimes you just have to agree to disagree; points for either side in any discussion can always be argued. I don't think I can be convinced that everyone's entitled to a free/paid* beta any more than I can convince others on this forum that they're not.An encouraging thought is that, a month from now, none of it will matter anyway.(*depending on if you view paying for fileplanet the same as paying your ISP or your cell phone bill, as I do)

Agree entirely.You didn't get a key? That's nice. You're not necessarily entitled to one.Next time read what it says on the web site and be aware of any conditions. You paid for the Fileplanet Subscription, NOTHING MORE. Access to the FSX beta or any other beta are one of the perks for the subscription.James

Maybe it is the fact that you could still sign up for the beta on Saturday, well after all the keys were given out, that I don't get?I'm not sure how that would be an incentive - to me it looks more like the bait and switch you mention.

How to display virtual cockpit on FS9 aircraft, previously posted by Bill Leaming:"In the model.cfg file, add a line for the "interior" model:normal=MyModelinterior=MyModelFor the time being, this will allow you to 'see' your VC...Bill Leaming"