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Speedbrake

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The speed brake seems to have no effect on the descent profile. Speed, Pitch and ROC not observed to change.Should this be the case?ThanksSteve

Cheers

Steve Hall

No it shouldn't be the case...unless the hydraulics aren't powered or you have closed the shutoff switches on the overhead panel.The speed brake will not make the plane shudder and fall like a meteor like some other (bad) flight models do.CheersBob ScottATP IMEL Gulfstream II-III-IV-VSantiago de Chile

Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc
ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V

Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE
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Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case

Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090
Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz,
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Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro
PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box

Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090
Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus,
TM TCA Officer Pack
, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case

>The speed brake will not make the plane shudder and fall like>a meteor like some other (bad) flight models do.>if the aircraft isn't the 727 :-badteeth :-yellow1

Gustavo Rodrigues - Brazil

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Yes some sim aircraft go overboard with the effects. This on the other hand is nothing and yes the hyd's are powered and switches closed.Cheers Steve

Cheers

Steve Hall

How are you activating the speed brakes?Are they coming out in the model (i.e. in spot view)?RegardsBob ScottATP IMEL Gulfstream II-III-IV-VSantiago de Chile

Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc
ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V

Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE
Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro
Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case

Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090
Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz,
3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU
Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro
PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box

Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090
Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus,
TM TCA Officer Pack
, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case

do you started default C172 before loading the TM2?

Gustavo Rodrigues - Brazil

Hi,I face the same problem since I re-installed FS9 a month or so ago. I can't remeber to have done anything different than my previous installation. In fact the "control surefaces"/"speed breaks" seems unoperative and they don't move at all whether I move the yoke lever(assigned as directed) or press the / button in order to do it the old fashioned way. Could you please do a re-cap of the "settings" we need via the FSUIPc? maybe we have missed something there ;)Worths to point out that the speedbreaks seems to deploy well with the KittyHawk model (the other 732) so I am not sure if it is hydraulic releated. I have to admit though that I have not apply any FSUIPC changed on the KittyHawk model and I used the / to observer the breaks moving.Any help will be really appreciated.RegardsYiannisp.s Also (I don't know if it is related) but the speedbreaks are not easily observable to move even when things were going fine. I mean you had to change view in order to see them in their deployed position. If you were observing them externaly and moving hte lever, nothing was happening till you go in the cockpit and out again.

  • 2 weeks later...
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Yes the speed brakes are coming out in spot view.

Cheers

Steve Hall

  • 2 weeks later...

Hi all,I would aggregate, if you allow me, that yes the spoilers are coming out in spot view, but only the flight spoilers not all the spoiler panels as in the Kittyhawk version, though I must say that it just happens in replay spot view. I like also add that, although it is true that spoilers are linked to the compression of the nose gear strut in some 737's, that arrangement is seldom used in real life in order to prevent floating on the runway after touchdown and waste precious pavement for stopping. I have never flown 737's with spoilers linked to it, i.e. all were linked to the compression of the main landing gear.Maybe we, TinMouse users, could get in the near future a revision of the model as a patch.ThanksArt

The decision to delay the ground spoiler deployment until nosewheel contact was made because the model by Terry Gaff uses the wing fold animation for the gnd spoiler panels. This apparently has the unhappy side effect of dumping lift, slamming the nose gear down pretty violently when the spoilers deploy on touchdown.As a working compromise, changes already made for the next version model the spoiler effects at MLG contact, but will still not trigger the gnd spoiler animation until nosewheel contact.RegardsBob ScottATP IMEL Gulfstream II-III-IV-VSantiago de Chile

Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc
ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V

Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE
Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro
Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case

Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090
Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz,
3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU
Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro
PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box

Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090
Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus,
TM TCA Officer Pack
, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case

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