Before anyone purchases, please note that it does NOT have a VC.This "feature" is worded carefully:"Fast FPS! 2D Panels only":)Enjoy.

for a bargain price of only 199.95!!

JTEK99The actual wording on the website is:"NO VC included for fast FPS (VC would make TU 134 very difficult to fly)."Where's your "carefully worded" quotation come from?Big AlThe price on the website is 40.54 euro including VAT. Where does your price of 199.95 come from?

And no Navigation System. Let me guess : For fast fps ? :-hah Mike

Doesn't appear on their website but here:http://secure.simmarket.com/product_info.p...roducts_id=2125Anyone purchased?

>JTEK99>>The actual wording on the website is:>>"NO VC included for fast FPS (VC would make TU 134 very>difficult to fly).">>Where's your "carefully worded" quotation come from?>>>>Big Al>>The price on the website is 40.54 euro including VAT. Where>does your price of 199.95 come from?>>it would make it difficult to fly? why not give us the option instead of using that great marketing trick to tell you what you should do?and my price came from pure sarcasm. I wouldnt accept 200 dollars to fly anything arianeand over 60 dollars for an airplane without a VC! Typical

>And no Navigation System. Let me guess : For fast fps ? :-hah>>>Mikehaha, exactly!

>JTEK99>>The actual wording on the website is:>>"NO VC included for fast FPS (VC would make TU 134 very>difficult to fly).">>Where's your "carefully worded" quotation come from?mgh:The "carefully worded" quotation comes from my bowels where I consigned the last Ariane plane I bought, along with the all-important Advanced VCe3 Hi-Res Toilet Tissue Holder upgrade (no winglets), VCeNG2.5 Ultra Super Worn Tire Tread addon, and the uber-necessary Super VC3e-HR FMC Ventral Mount (FMC data sold separately).Hope this helps.

Please, for the sake of the community as a whole, don't buy anything from those idiots at Ariane.

JTEK99 and Big AlSilly me! Of course this is an Ariane product so that makes it OK to post false quotations and non-existent prices. Incidentally the price is 34.95 euro without VAT so the price is about $45 at current exchange rates, not $60.It seems to me that there's not much difference in honesty between Ariane and you.

Getting close to Christmas...guess it is time for the Hari-Tishma crowd (read: Ariane) to come out and assault all the good people in virtual airports around the world in order to sell their hyped version of peace and truth and love and ridiculously unattainable frame rates. "Just send us your money and we'll show you the way..."Hari-TishmaHari-TishmaHari Hari HariHar...Har...Har!!!:-erksBob ScottATP IMEL Gulfstream II-III-IV-V L-300Santiago de Chile

>Getting close to Christmas...guess it is time for the>Hari-Tishma crowd (read: Ariane) to come out and assault all>the good people in virtual airports around the world in order>to sell their hyped version of peace and truth and love and>ridiculously unattainable frame rates. "Just send us your>money and we'll show you the way...">>Hari-Tishma>Hari-Tishma>Hari Hari Hari>>>Har...Har...Har!!!>>:-erks>>Bob Scott>ATP IMEL Gulfstream II-III-IV-V L-300>Santiago de ChileWell Bob,....it might interest you that the TU 134 from Ariane even has better framerates than a certain B732. ;-)If you don

Hi Steffan,just for interest, how do you navigate this thing ? I hope they don't want the user to navigate with the default GPS or tell any fairytale about VOR/ADF navigation in the Tu-134.I'd wonder about the comments if a 737 without FMC would be sold for that price.And what is really behind the "100 switches and systems" advertisement ? How many of those are just dummies? In other words : How is the system depth ? And to what degree are system dependencies modelled, if at all ?Mike

Hi Mike,I use the VOR/NDB navigation. But I havn

Hi Staffan,thanks for the info. Certainly your remarks regarding price are understandable. I also have a lot of Addons gaining dust on my HD, so these have been the most expensive when looking back. A price by flight hour relation would be more interesting, but then that's personal preference only and not much valid.A Tu-134 never navigated by just VOR/ADF, neither now nor whatever years ago. And for a full price package I would not expect such an important part to be left out.I know Russian Navigation systems have the myth of being too difficult, but IMHO that's just a matter of a good tutorial.Mike