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Suddenly experiencing random crashes in FS9

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Hi all,I'm at my wit's end so I thought I'd post here and see if anyone might have some insight to my problem.Within the past 10 days or so, I've started to experience random crashes in FS9. There is no rhyme of reason to it. I'll be flying along and usually sometime between an hour and a half to two hours, the sim will crash. There is no warning/error message...I'm just dumped back to the desktop. However there have been occasions where I have flown a two hour flight without the CTD. I haven't added any scenery (using only the default) nor done anything to my system. I thought I had it cured when I figured out FS AutoStart wasn't shutting down the latest version of the free AVG anti-virus, but I've reconfigured FS AutoStart and I'm still getting the crashes. I mostly fly older props and turboprops...Rick Piper's aircraft. However that shouldn't be the problem as I'd flown them for hundreds of hours before this started happening. FS9 is the only application this is happening with. I can fly IL2 and it's addon's without any problem. I have an older computer, an AMD Athlon 2500+, 1 Gig RAM, xFx GeForce 6600 256MB card.One application I haven't shut down before simming is the ZoneLabs firewall, but I've had that for over a year and left it running while simming without any problems.If anyone has any ideas, I'd sure like to hear them!Regards,ScottKJMS (or thereabouts)

"...now let's get this thing on the hump - we've got some flyin' to do!" ~ Major Kong from "Dr. Stranglove"

Scott Cebula

If you haven't installed the FS 9.1 patch, it could be the old seasonal CTD that occurs during the change of seasons to/from winter.If you're using an external ATC program...or just have ATC turned off, it could be the dreaded atc.dll crash. If you have the full registered version of FSUIPC, that's fixed by placing the line RemoveATC=Yes in the FSUIPC.ini file.Otherwise, check you events log in Windows and see if there's a clue there.RegardsBob ScottATP IMEL Gulfstream II-III-IV-V L-300Santiago de Chile

Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc
ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V

Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE
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3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU
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Hi Bob,Thanks for the reply. I have the 9.1 patch installed...perhaps I'll re-install it and see if that helps. I'm not using any external ATC - nor do I have it turned off, and I do have the registered version of FSUIPC.I just downloaded a little utility called "File Monitor". I'll have that running next time I sim, and if I crash, hopefully the file causing the problem will be in the list.Regards,ScottKJMS (or thereabouts)

"...now let's get this thing on the hump - we've got some flyin' to do!" ~ Major Kong from "Dr. Stranglove"

Scott Cebula

Recommend also you run Memtest86+ and make sure you don't have a RAM problem located in the upper reaches of your address space. Also, heat buildup can cause this sort of thing...when's the last time you had a look inside and/or blew the dust out of the case?CheersBob ScottATP IMEL Gulfstream II-III-IV-V L-300Santiago de Chile

Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc
ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V

Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE
Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro
Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case

Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090
Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz,
3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU
Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro
PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box

Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090
Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus,
TM TCA Officer Pack
, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case

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I'll do a search for the Memtest86+. You know, I was thinking the same thing about the case...I think it's been about 9 months since I was last in there and blew out the dust. I'll give that a shot too.Thanks,ScottKJMS (or thereabouts)

"...now let's get this thing on the hump - we've got some flyin' to do!" ~ Major Kong from "Dr. Stranglove"

Scott Cebula

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When I hear the term "older computer" I would think harware issues... heat, memory, or your power suplly unit might be going on the blink. That's what I discovered after thinking it was a software issue.Then again, try to recount every change you have done to your software over the past two weeks? Addons?, tweaks. I even discovered a simple setup switch was thrown the wrong way which put my simming into havoc for weeks... just thinkin' out loud.Merry Christmas,ClutchProject 9Dragons

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Netgear 1Gbps modem & router, (3) 27" 1440 wrap-around displays
Full array of Bravo, Saitek and GoFlight hardware for the cockpit. Varjo and HP VR headsets for mixed reality.

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Just wanted to follow-up my post with the results.I think I've managed to cure my problem - and thanks alot for the replies!I did 2 things: I removed AutoTower (not sure if that was causing the problem or not), and I cleaned out the inside of my computer case. It had been about 9 months since I'd been in there....and it was ugly! There was a large piece of lint, sitting on top of my CPU's cooling fins, under the fan. I removed that with a pair of tweezers, and sucked the rest of the dust and cat hair (I have 2 indoor Tabbies) out of the case. I've flown a couple of long flights since then, without any problems.Happy New Year to all!ScottKJMS (or thereabouts)

"...now let's get this thing on the hump - we've got some flyin' to do!" ~ Major Kong from "Dr. Stranglove"

Scott Cebula

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