April 9, 200719 yr Hey guys, I'm doing some flights with an Alaska 737-200 using the CIVA-INS 1.40 around some of the small airports, commercial bush flying. I was wondering that while on the ground at these airports, before flying to the next one, is it better to find a VOR near the airport (if there is one) to perform a DME update for the INS, or is it better to shut it down and realign it if I have time? I am following published Alaska flight schedules, so I usually have time, about 30 minutes on the ground at a time.Also, if I shouldn't DME update, I can assume DME update is only good for when I am in the air? And is DME updating efficient or necessary on short legs?Thanks in advance.
April 9, 200719 yr iirc you are only supposed to perform DME updates when airborne.also,it might be even better,seeing as you have time,to shut the unit down and then align again,using the proper coordinates.i myself just punch in a new set of numbers,and then carry on,as i can always perform a dme update while airborne.once the unit is aligned it'll always know where it is,so i finf it cumbersome to re-align every time i land atsome small gravel strip only to wait ten minutes for it to align again.i usually fly using vor/ndb nav though,as that seems the way most 732's flew.cheersJP.
April 9, 200719 yr It's generally better, in the real world, to dump the platform and realign during any ground stop. The reason is that the rate of drift increases the longer the platform is in NAV mode...basically at an exponential rate. All you are doing with any update is providing a known-error offset based on the difference between the known position (derived by DME or a manually-entered position) and the raw gyro position. The gyro's raw position is never changed once it goes into NAV mode...all that happens is an error-correction routine in the INS uses an offset based on the last update to apply a correction to the gyro's raw position, and that corrected position value is then used for all navigational computations in the INU.But the longer the platform is in NAV mode, the larger the drift rate becomes. So even though you update the position, it will drift off of that updated position faster and faster still the longer it has been in NAV mode.So the ideal is to realign and enter nav mode close to engine start and have a freshly initialized interial platform at the start of each leg. There aren't many ground times less than the 10-min alignment period, anyway.RegardsBob ScottATP IMEL Gulfstream II-III-IV-VSantiago de Chile Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090 Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz, 3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090 Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus, TM TCA Officer Pack, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case
Create an account or sign in to comment