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FSX and TP have been getting along quite famously.Grabbed the latest, March 2nd?, TP and installed it.Downloaded Ed's ini file.Started TP.... loaded from 200 - 500 tiles per second. minute? Anyway. Started FSX and it loaded as one would expect. At 100% FSX opened to an all black screen.Tried again from scratch same result.Advice? Suggestions?

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Update.I tried a different location. Same result screen all blackI tried a different service provider. Same result screen all black.Interestingly I can hear the aircraft engine and if I switch views I can hear that the views are switching. Throttle invokes a proper response in engine sound. Service provider 2 presented the Capthya screen and I responded properly. Loading continued. I like the ascii rings that get filled.Next will reboot and try again.

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See if the enable_hooking switch is set to OFF in the INI file.It may be an issue unrelated to Tileproxy though. I've seldom had all black screens when the video driver was acting up / broken. A reboot would fix it for me.

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For the record, I have the enable_hooking set to off by default in the pre-configured FSX ini file. I just loaded a flight over the Toiyabe Range in the Nevada outback with the FSX ini from the quick guide, and all looked good as seen below so this ini should work for you. The only thing a user needs to edit in this ini is their chosen "cache_folder=" locations listed under each service, which I've notedd in the qick guide. The current entry is the default location at: "C:Program FilesMicrosoft Games". Other than that it should work as pictured. Another thought...There was a Beta 7 version on the server for a day or two that had preload_max_lod limit of 12. The VERY last version increased that to 15, which is the setting in my current ini. Are you sure you have the very latest Beta 7 installed?http://forums.avsim.net/user_files/185976.jpghttp://forums.avsim.net/user_files/185977.jpg

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Ok. Here is what I am going to do. I just did a reboot and I am not going to change anything and try again. I thought I got the latest version from SourceForge. I think it was dated March 1 but maybe that was an older one. I will also check that to be sure. Thanks for the quick response guys. Ed, those screenshots are beautiful.BTW, just noticed that the preload max lod in the TP window is set at 15 so I must have the latest version.

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Still having the problem after rebooting. I am uninstalling TP and starting from scratch to see if that fixes it. I will also redownload to be sure I have the latest although the lod max preload showed as 15 in the TP screen.

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There is no longer a March file on SourceFource. Only a February one. Hmmm. Weird.

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That's just the date that's posted. It's been that way in spite of several updates. Not sure why. So, the "TileProxy_Beta7_Latest.zip" file you see there IS the newest version. My archives show March 1st actually WAS the day when the previous was on the server all day, (it had the same zip name too) so that might be your problem. Also, if I understand TP window readings it may have shown "preload 15" because I believe it's displaying the "content" of the ini file. That doesn't mean TP can load those levels if it's the previous version, so maybe there's the rub.

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>That's just the date that's posted. It's been that way in>spite of several updates. Not sure why. So, the>"TileProxy_Beta7_Latest.zip" file you see there IS the newest>version. My archives show March 1st actually WAS the day when>the previous was on the server all day, (it had the same zip>name too) so that might be your problem. Also, if I understand>TP window readings it may have shown "preload 15" because I>believe it's displaying the "content" of the ini file. That>doesn't mean TP can load those levels if it's the previous>version, so maybe there's the rub.ok. I am going to grab it again and start from scratch. Sounds like that could be it.

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So you are getting an ALL BLACK screen, as opposed to some black tiles around the aircraft?

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Yes, all black screen. I have reloaded TP multiple times with different settings and still get the all black screen. I am going to try upgrading my graphic driver, Nvidia, but it was working with the previous version of TP.

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Maybe let FSX rebuild your fsx.cfg file. It could be related to some graphics card or resolution settings. I assume you get the same problem when Tileproxy is not even started before loading a flight?

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That was going to be the next thing I try. I just rebooted after loading the latest graphics drivers. I will try FSX and if it does not work will let it rebuild the cfg.

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At one point I even reinstalled TP with a lower resolution setting thinking that my poor old system was just not able to handle the 1.1 meter pixel size. However, thinking back, I have run that resolution before so it should not be a problem. I suspect it is a graphics driver issue. I am now reloading FSX with TP running after updating my video drivers so I should know something shortly.

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Still all black. Checking FSX now without TP and will then let it rebuild the cfg.

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I am using the ini from the users guide site. But, Ed ran it to get those beautiful screenshots. The file on SourceForge for Tileproxy was dated other than March but it was named Tileproxy_Beta7_latest. It appeared to be an all new install with options I had not seen before. Will start the programs again now that the cfg has been rebuilt.

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Make sure you got the latest ini from the quick guide too!If you STILL have problems, here are some suggestions to run over. Some you may be aware of but for the sake of other less experienced readers:--- I got all black tiles once when I had left TWO services enabled (Acme and Service 3). TP downloaded lots of tiles and acted normal till FS booted into the sim and all was black. --- Try disabling preloading altogether. You can "trick" TP into shutting off all preloading with these settings:preload_min_lod=9preload_max_lod=8--- Be EXTRA sure that no virus, spyware, or other firewall or filtering devices of any nature are running. That's been a black tile culprit too.--- Clear out BOTH your World folder and all Service Caches from the start menu links between boots so your not loading pre-cached black tiles from previously failed attempt.--- Make sure that the "Tileproxy Photoreal World" actually exists where you instructed the installer to put it. The driver looks for and MUST FIND a folder of this name in order for TP to work right. A recent user who did not have this folder named correctly got black tiles I seem to remember.--- Make sure the cache_folder= entries for each service in the ProxyUser.ini correctly point to the folder where your chose for your cache folders to reside. --- If these folders were placed on an external drive, double check that the drive is powered up and appearing in My Computer as an active and valid drive. My externals sometimes don't reboot after power outages, etc.--- Make doubly sure that your max_lod value is not set ABOVE the max_level value specified under the service your using. (Remembering that the max_lod value is two numeric digits BELOW the corresponding equal of the max__level value like so):max_lod=15 equals max_level=17max_lod=14 equals max_level=16 etc.Good Luck!

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Thanks. I tried all of the standard things and still get all black. Not just black tiles but all black screen. I will work through your list and report back but it must be another day. Thanks for the support.

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Disabled pre loading.Cleared all cachesVerified location of photoreal scenery folder.Still black tiles.Just before shutting down I checked and found Windows had turned on its Firewall. Probably after an update. Really too tired to try it anymore tonight but hopefully tomorrow that will be it. I remain optimistic.

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--- One service enabled--- Try disabling preloading altogether. Done--- Disabled--- Cleared world folder and cache--- Tileproxy Photoreal World" actually exists --- Firewall off--- Cache folder exists and is filled with jpgsStill all black screen. Not black tiles but entirely black screen. See http://www.bbbrown.com/images_general/jpgs/tpblack.jpgWhile TP is running it downloads tiles at up to 600+ tiles per second when starting and then drops down to a few. FSX runs fine without TP. Any more ideas? Is this a conspiracy with the computer manufacturers to get me to buy that new computer I have been putting off for years? :-)

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Hi Bob,Hmmm...(head scratching). It's seems like it's a TP/FSX interface problem of some kind. Christian may have better clue in this realm...None the less, check these system wide basics just to be sure. Do you have the following installed:--- Windows XP Service Pack 2 (SP2) --- Microsoft NetFramework 2.0--- FSX Service Pack 1 (SP1)TP requires the first two and I believe the last one for best performance and maybe even now to run.To verify if you have XP Service Pack 2 (SP2) installed go here:Start > Control Panel > System > General Tab, and look for "Service Pack 2" listed under the "System:" heading.To verify if you have NET Framework 2.0 installed go here:Start > Control Panel > Add or Remove Programs, and look for "Microsoft.Net Framework 2.0"To verify you have FSX SP1 insalled: Right click on your "FSX.exe" in your FSX root folder and choose "Properties". Go to the "Version" tab and choose the "File Version" entry. You should see something like this: 10.0.61355.0 (fsx-sp1.20070510-2038)Notice the "FSX-SP1" text.If you're missing any of these here are the links you need:XP Service Pack 2http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/sp2/default.mspxNet Framework 2.0http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details...&displaylang=enFSX Service Pack 1http://www.fsinsider.com/downloads/Pages/F...rvicePack1.aspxIf all of the above are installed, then maybe a good test might be to revert to TileProxy Beta 6 (or earlier) and see what happens:TileProxy Downloadshttp://www.sourceforge.net/projects/tileproxy/Here's a Beta 6 ini:http://edtruthan.com/tileproxy/tutorial/fs9users.htmLastly, if you were using an earlier version of TP that worked, what version was it? All previous versions are still available for download at SourceForge so you could always try an even earlier version as well. If that doesn't work then seems to me it must be a "something" that has changed, failed, or been added to your system since then...you'd think ay? I was not able to find any other forum posts on the web that had a solution a similar problem and since the Beta 7 version is so new that's not surprising. It'd be interesting to see if any earlier versions worked for you. Let us know how you do. Maybe Christian has an idea...-Ed

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Yes, I have all of those components installed. I am presently on my Linux machine. I'll try installing the beta 6 version when I boot back up in Windows. This is certainly an interesting event. Just two days ago I was running Tileproxy and the sim to get the screenshots for my Blog over at fs-freeflow.com. I think I jinxed myself by bragging about TP and FSX in the blog. LOL.

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Ok guys. Beta 6 works perfectly. The problem is in the latest release. At least with my system.

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