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Who has the best C152 (payware or freeware)

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I'm looking for a nice 152 to get me started on RW training..heh. I was wondering who has the best C152 whether it be Flight1 or Caranedo...Thanks!

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There's no comparison that can be made between Flight1 and Carenado. Flight1 without question. Carenado spend all their time making their planes look very pretty.

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There's no comparison that can be made between Flight1 and Carenado. Flight1 without question. Carenado spend all their time making their planes look very pretty.
hicould you be more specific? Your statement seems contradictory. :( thanks

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I have the F1 C152 and have time in the RW C152 and I am impressed with how the F1 C152's flight model refelects the RW closely. I can't comment on the flight model of Carenado's as I don't have it. I think the poster above was making the point that Carenado make good visual models but maybe aren't so hot at the flight models. At least that's what I think he was implying?! Someone with both addons needs to come in here. I would like to hear some 'side by side' comparisons, especially with reference to the flight models.

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for RW flight training, i recommend you to get the Flight1 Cessna 172. I know you are flying 152s right now, but most likely, you or the school will upgrade you into the 172 after a few hours in the 152.The Flight1 172 is pretty good. The flight modeling and system modeling are pretty accurate to the real thing (stall speeds, climb/decent rates, rpm setting vs speed, mixture controls, etc.) Since you are just starting out w/ your lessons, having a "digital" version at home is very helpful. I used it constantly during my pilot school days; especially for VOR-VOR navigation, and doing "virtual" flights before the real deal (made my first x-country a breeze after doing it 4-5 times in the sim first). Later you can modify the panel with the RealityXP GPS gauges...and you'll have all the systems covered.-feng

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Hibeside flight one's and carenado's offers there is a 150L freeware by Fran

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hi,As far as carenado's flight modeling is concerned, there is a very detailed review by a pilot comparing their C172 with a real world C172 in the reader's review section in this forum. Go and read it and judge by yourself...

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JulienThanks for that link for the freeware C150. Have just installed and I am well impressed. It flies to the numbers and would be a great adjunct to RW PPL training. I've alisased the F! C152 sounds as it uses the default C172 sounds. Excellent freeware!

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hicould you be more specific? Your statement seems contradictory. :( thanks
Carenado spend all their time making their planes look very pretty, and that's it. Not much substance to them - that's the impression I've gotten from the C210, C206, and Mooney M20J of theirs that I've flown. They look very pretty and are very simple, though the real world aircraft are pretty simple too so maybe that's not a bad thing.

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First off I like some of the Carenado Models. Looking at the Flight1 Web Site I see that they offer both the Flight1 & Carenado Models. I know that the Carenado Model is only a couple of months old. Does anybody have any idea how long ago the Flight1 Model was developed?I also have the Flight1 C172, a great plane. If their C152 is anything like their C172 it certainly deserves a look.Tom

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The Flight One C152 is an older model. I believe it was originally made for FS2002. That said It's still very nice. Especially after a few minor tweaks.Cheers...............Todd

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Also if I remember correctly, RealAir offered as a free download a C172. There was some assembly required, but the flight dynamics of the aircraft were suppose to be the best in the business at the time.Tom

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Also if I remember correctly, RealAir offered as a free download a C172. There was some assembly required, but the flight dynamics of the aircraft were suppose to be the best in the business at the time.Tom
That's right. RealAir are masters of accurate flight models and you can download a freeware package that converts the default C172 into a a C172 with an excellent flight model with which you can practise spin/stall recovery with some semblance to the real thing. Highly recommended. The flight 1 C152 has been around awhile but remains a superbly flight model-equipped addon.Comments on the Carenado flight model by any owner appreciated. . . anyone?edited for spelling.

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That's right. RealAir are masters of accurate flight models and you can download a freeware package that converts the default C172 into a a C172 with an excellent flight model with which you can practise spin/stall recovery with some semblance to the real thing. Highly recommended. The flight 1 C152 has been around awhile but remains a superbly flight model-equipped addon.Comments on the Carenado flight model by any owner appreciated. . . anyone?edited for spelling.
The Carenado 152 was designed for 2002 so I don't recommend it now. The Freeware 150 seems to be the best rendition out there for a 150/152 now.

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Cessnaflyer wrote:

"The Carenado 152 was designed for 2002"
Are we certain of this? I was under the impression that the Carenado C152 was brand-new for FSX and FS2004. It's certainly not priced like a warmed over 2002 model. I realize that's not a sure fire way to tell but usually the 2002 models are $10 - $17 and the new ones are $25 and up.Cheers..............Todd

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Cessnaflyer wrote:Are we certain of this? I was under the impression that the Carenado C152 was brand-new for FSX and FS2004. It's certainly not priced like a warmed over 2002 model. I realize that's not a sure fire way to tell but usually the 2002 models are $10 - $17 and the new ones are $25 and up.Cheers..............Todd
The Carenado C152 that is being offered now by the developer is only a couple of months old. I believe the Flight1 Model has been in the "field" for a longer period of time.Tom

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Hi Like you , I`m keen to have a nice 152 as that is the aircraft I have real hours on, along with the Tomahawk.Don`t go for the Flight 1 C152, it is pretty old now (made for FS2002/4) and has some strange yaw behaviour (IMHO). I think there were 3 or 4 service packs for it (including one which specifically mentioned yaw changes in the release notes) but it never felt right to me. The carenado a/c is not very old at all. It is nice to look at (both panel and external) but I wasn`t that comfortable with the handling.The French freeware 150 I reckon flies the best but has no 2D main panel, though the vc pretty good. It has nice sound too - a smooth burr when climbing out. My 152 consists of the carenado 2d panel matched with the freeware aerobat. I have dual monitors so use the 2d carenado panel is on the 2nd screen with the outside view over the glareshield of the 150. Ok I have to ignore the flap position indicator in the port door pillar in the vc but its a small price to fly for a nice flight model.Cheers James

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I've been flying the freeware C150 more and more, and am thinking now that it is as good as, if not better, than the F1 C152. The fact that it has no 2d cockpit is not a problem for me as in GA flying I always fly in VC mode. It must rank as one of the best freeware GA aircraft ever. It certainly is a great adjunct to RW flight training.

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I haven't flown the Carenado 152, but the Flight1 model was pretty good. Granted I've only had 16 hours of time shared amongst the 150 and 152 in the real world. If I could find my logbook, I'd break down those hours more just as a caveat, unfortunately I misplaced it somewhere in the 3 years I haven't flown and hope to find it when I pack to move in a few months. The Carenado model looks much, much nicer but I haven't bought it yet, and even if I did, it's been close to 10 years since I flew the 152 in the real-world. You might be able to marry the model of the Carenado bird and airfile and elements of the cfg to the Flight1 bird if you find the Carenado to not feel right.

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Well I fly the Cessna 150 in the Real-World and my reccomendation is the Carenado. The 2D cockpit is'nt great but the VC is amazing and so detailed!! So my reccomendation is the Carenado!

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I've been flying the French C-150 since hearing about it in this thread and I must say I like it a lot! Very impressive in the detailing especially for a freeware aircraft. One thing I have noticed though is that the magnetic compass is backwards. Has anyone else noticed this on their machines or is it somehow only on mine? I looked through the panels and gauges in my setup and can find no sign of it anywhere. I fear it's in the model file somewhere. Has anyone had any experience with this? Cheers.................Todd

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hi,No I don't have the same problem. If you type shift Z in order to display the heading you will see that the magnetic compass indication matches that reference heading.bye

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Sorry, I didn't explain the situation very well. The compass does read accurately. No problems with that. But the compass card rotates the wrong direction. And so the markings on the card are backwards. IOW when you are on a heading of 1-8-0, 1-5-0 should be on the right and 2-1-0 should be on the left. So if your desired course is to the right of the lubber line you need to make a turn to the left to get back on course. But with the C-150 it's backwards.Cheers.......................Todd

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Sorry, I didn't explain the situation very well. The compass does read accurately. No problems with that. But the compass card rotates the wrong direction. And so the markings on the card are backwards. IOW when you are on a heading of 1-8-0, 1-5-0 should be on the right and 2-1-0 should be on the left. So if your desired course is to the right of the lubber line you need to make a turn to the left to get back on course. But with the C-150 it's backwards.Cheers.......................Todd
hi, I see your point but maybe it is the way some magnetic compass are designed. It is not a problem though because when flying you should use the heading indicator which takes avantage of the gyroscopic effect and is therefore more accurate. The magnetic compass is only used in order to correct the heading indicator drift approximately every 15 minutes. I think that there is a more confusing problem with attitude indicators because some models have a banking scale which moves in the same direction as the banking direction and other models move in the opposite direction of the banking. When you transition from one model to the other it is very, very confusing. The french C152 is great except for the cockpit window which is not transparent enough IMHO. I had to modify the alpha channel to make it more transparent.Cheers

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I do have the Carenado C152 and it is really awesome! A lot of work has been put into this model and they have got it 100% right. It fly's and sounds just like it's real world counterpart but, I warn you, it's addictive ;)

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