November 24, 200916 yr So I have read many of the threads on defragging and SSD. Don't do it. Not needed. Could wear the drive out.....etc.Situation: I just reinstalled FSX after a W7 upgrade. My new hard disk layout is to have the OS on a Velociraptor and have placed FSX on its "own" drive, an OCZ 250gb. This unit has the 1.40 firmware that supports TRIM, and I have checked the W7 install to assure myself that TRIM is also present there. As might be expected, the FSX drive, when analyzed by O&O Defrag 12.??, shows a 53% fragmentation. I have done the normal "Space, Space, Name, Name" defrag on all of the other drives in the system, but have not touched the SSD. The SSD performance seems to be there, i.e. I have a significantly reduced initial load time, and have not run into any slowdown in the sim when panning or high rate turns. So the SSD is doing what it is supposed to, but.............................................man, it just goes against the grain to see all of that fragmentation.So as most of you know, after following Nick's guide on the use of O & O, the initial install is quite a mess; but after you have everything loaded, the fragmentation virtually ceases. My question, should I defrag the drive now that I have all of the GEX, UTX, REX, FTX, OZx.......installed? One pass to get this thing back into some reasonable order. Or, leave as is.Your thoughts????? :( Kingfish
November 24, 200916 yr Commercial Member No! Fragmentation is only relevant when you have a mechanical head which needs to search for data all over a spinning disc platter.DO NOT DEFRAGMENT A SSD. Simple as that. Konrad
November 24, 200916 yr No! Fragmentation is only relevant when you have a mechanical head which needs to search for data all over a spinning disc platter.DO NOT DEFRAGMENT A SSD. Simple as that.Konrad is correct.Fragmentation is not a problem on a random access device like an SSD, where access time for any block of data is essentially the same across the medium. Although it looks like a mess on the O&O display, functionally there's no problem.CheersBob ScottColonel, USAF (ret)ATP IMEL Gulfstream II-III-IV-VColorado Springs, CO Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090 Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz, 3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090 Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus, TM TCA Officer Pack, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case
November 24, 200916 yr KingfishThis is from Intel: http://www.intel.com/support/ssdc/hpssd/sb/CS-029623.htm#5Do I need to defragment my Intel
November 24, 200916 yr Thanks all for your comments. Your suggestions follow what I have read, and I guess, what I was going to do. :( :( On the other hand, it sure does look terrible when you do an analysis and see all of those "ugly, red, fragmented" files. I'll just "TRIM away" and be a happy camper.. :( Kingfish
November 25, 200916 yr Commercial Member Yeah you just have to realize that it looks "ugly" because an SSD doesn't even work on remotely the same principles as a mechanical HD. The display O&O shows you isn't even accurate, the internal controller on the SSD is really the only thing that knows where the files really are in the physical matrix that makes up the SSD. "Defragging" has no meaning for devices like this, it doesn't matter in the slightest if a file is contiguous physically or if files are ordered sequentially etc.If you want to understand it at the core level, read these two articles Anand wrote on the technology:http://www.anandtech.com/storage/showdoc.aspx?i=3531&p=1http://anandtech.com/storage/showdoc.aspx?i=3631 Ryan MaziarzFor fastest support, please submit a ticket at http://support.precisionmanuals.com
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