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I'd really appreciate it if one of our resident navdata guru's could have a look at these two SIDSTAR files.They're both for VHHX Kai Tak. The Terry Yingling file works just fine, even though my FMC data is 1001, and the file is cycle 0912. Trouble is, there are no STARS for RW13 in it.For some reason, the Steve Bell version (04/96) won't work with the FMC. By that, I mean that although there are several STARS present in the data, they don't appear in the FMC.I'd really like to have the STARS for RW13.Can anyone please help?

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I'd really appreciate it if one of our resident navdata guru's could have a look at these two SIDSTAR files.They're both for VHHX Kai Tak. The Terry Yingling file works just fine, even though my FMC data is 1001, and the file is cycle 0912. Trouble is, there are no STARS for RW13 in it.For some reason, the Steve Bell version (04/96) won't work with the FMC. By that, I mean that although there are several STARS present in the data, they don't appear in the FMC.I'd really like to have the STARS for RW13.Can anyone please help?
Hi - that's pretty strange, since I use the one from Steve, and it works fine. Do you have the "Readme" file that came with his VHHX.txt file? if not, you need to add the following in wpNavApt.txt and Airports.dat (both found in the FMCWP folder) - FILENAME: wpNavAPT.txt //ADDS KAI TAK RNWYS//ADD THE FOLLOWING Hong Kong VHHX31 10930316 22.304401 114.216064109.9031600015Hong Kong VHHX13 10930136 22.324850 114.193176111.9013600015FILENAME: airports.dat //ADDS KAI TAK TO ARPTS ON NDVHHX 22.316959 114.202621Note that the spacing MUST be the same as the other entries in those two files, and add to both files immediately after their respective VHHH entries.Give this a shot & good luck! (I just flew my FS9 PMDG MD11 from RCKH to VHHX earlier today, using this setup. In FSX, those two files are located in the NavData folder inside the PMDG folder).Jim

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Hi - that's pretty strange, since I use the one from Steve, and it works fine. Do you have the "Readme" file that came with his VHHX.txt file? if not, you need to add the following in wpNavApt.txt and Airports.dat (both found in the FMCWP folder) - FILENAME: wpNavAPT.txt //ADDS KAI TAK RNWYS//ADD THE FOLLOWING Hong Kong VHHX31 10930316 22.304401 114.216064109.9031600015Hong Kong VHHX13 10930136 22.324850 114.193176111.9013600015FILENAME: airports.dat //ADDS KAI TAK TO ARPTS ON NDVHHX 22.316959 114.202621Note that the spacing MUST be the same as the other entries in those two files, and add to both files immediately after their respective VHHH entries.Give this a shot & good luck! (I just flew my FS9 PMDG MD11 from RCKH to VHHX earlier today, using this setup. In FSX, those two files are located in the NavData folder inside the PMDG folder).Jim
Thanks for that Jim.I certainly do have the above added. VHHX shows up fine on the ND and I have the ILS showing too.When I activate my flight plan using Steve's version, I also get an error message on the FMC: "err at line 192 (or 194)"

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Try this one :- works fine for me.========================================================================Add to wpNavAPT.txt (NavData folder)HONG KONG KAI TAK VHHX31 10930316 22.305500 114.214500109.9031600015HONG KONG KAI TAK VHHX13 10930136 22.321667 114.196667111.9008800015=========================================================================Add to wpNavAID.txt (NavData folder)IGS LLZ/DME RWY 13 KL ILSD 22.003299 114.104167111.90TLLZ/DME RWY 31 IIHK ILSD 22.324500 114.193667109.90TCH36X GP NDB 22.326667 114.191333333.00NHONG KONG INTL RW NDB 22.326667 114.191333337.00NIGS RWY 13 GP NDB 22.326833 114.092500331.00N==========================================================================Add to airports.dat (NavData folder)VHHX 22.316959 114.202621==========================================================================Create a new .txt file and call it VHHX.txt and save it to your sidstars folder.Copy and paste the following into VHHX.txt :-// VHHX - HONG KONG KAITAK INTL// Copyrighted 17/7/2006 by Gary Law, Jacky Wan// Edited 12/7/2007 by Thomas Lau: Gates Added// Data from 10/9/1997.FIXESFIX A LATLON N 22 16.200 E 115 08.600FIX C LATLON N 21 17.480 E 113 36.300FIX D LATLON N 21 20.060 E 114 31.480FIX G LATLON N 22 12.550 E 113 54.180FIX J LATLON N 22 19.490 E 114 28.540FIX K LATLON N 21 52.300 E 114 41.300FIX L LATLON N 22 08.071 E 114 24.230 FIX M LATLON N 21 17.800 E 113 15.600FIX N LATLON N 22 17.400 E 115 11.400FIX O LATLON N 21 51.018 E 114 14.252FIX Q LATLON N 21 19.800 E 114 43.700FIX T LATLON N 21 12.200 E 113 43.600FIX W LATLON N 22 01.599 E 114 30.360FIX D15 LATLON N 22 19.008 E 113 55.516FIX OM13 LATLON N 22 19.404 E 114 06.009FIX MM13 LATLON N 22 19.574 E 114 10.209FIX CH LATLON N 22 13.200 E 114 01.800FIX CC LATLON N 22 12.100 E 114 01.600FIX TH LATLON N 22 14.300 E 114 17.300FIX SC LATLON N 22 19.200 E 114 07.900FIX RW LATLON N 22 19.600 E 114 11.500FIX SL LATLON N 22 17.500 E 113 54.400FIX BEKOL LATLON N 22 32.360 E 114 07.590FIX DAGON LATLON N 19 00.000 E 111 48.180FIX DOTMI LATLON N 22 43.060 E 116 10.050FIX DUMOL LATLON N 19 00.000 E 114 23.180FIX ELATO LATLON N 22 19.600 E 117 30.000FIX ENVAR LATLON N 21 59.500 E 117 30.000FIX EPDOS LATLON N 19 00.0 E 113 33.3FIX IDOSI LATLON N 19 00.000 E 112 30.000FIX KAPLI LATLON N 21 10.000 E 117 30.000FIX KILOG LATLON N 21 52.270 E 114 41.370FIX MAGOG LATLON N 22 17.460 E 115 49.300FIX NOMAN LATLON N 20 00.000 E 116 40.300FIX SABNO LATLON N 18 59.100 E 115 50.700FIX SIKOU LATLON N 20 50.360 E 111 30.000FIX TAMOT LATLON N 22 21.500 E 113 52.000FIX CH055 LATLON N 22 17.046 E 114 05.208FIX CH010 LATLON N 22 06.046 E 113 54.113FIX CH001 LATLON N 21 43.140 E 115 44.290FIX CH013 LATLON N 21 40.497 E 114 42.544FIX CH021 LATLON N 21 30.344 E 113 33.222FIX CH015 LATLON N 21 28.499 E 114 26.571FIX CH020 LATLON N 21 26.574 E 113 40.505FIX CH019 LATLON N 21 23.286 E 113 54.197FIX CH017 LATLON N 21 23.218 E 114 08.187FIX CH002 LATLON N 21 08.170 E 115 23.420FIX CH004 LATLON N 20 47.560 E 113 05.120FIX CH003 LATLON N 20 44.250 E 114 51.500FIX CC7 COLOCATED CC 270 7FIX CH100 COLOCATED CH 104 100FIX CH117 COLOCATED CH 117 100FIX CH132 COLOCATED CH 132 100FIX CH175 COLOCATED CH 175 100FIX CH190 COLOCATED CH 190 100FIX CH199 COLOCATED CH 199 100FIX CH214 COLOCATED CH 214 100ENDFIXESRNWSRNW 13RNW 31ENDRNWSSIDSSID BEKOL1A FIX BEKOL RNW 13 FIX TH FIX OVERFLY L AT OR BELOW 7000 DIRECT FIX J 7000 FIX BEKOL AT OR ABOVE 11800SID BEKOL2C FIX BEKOL RNW 31 FIX RW FIX SC TRK 251 INTERCEPT RADIAL 031 FROM NAVAID CH FIX CH AT OR ABOVE 3000 TRK 154 UNTIL 9000 TURN LEFT FIX TH 11000 FIX BEKOL AT OR ABOVE 11800SID DAGON1A FIX DAGON RNW 13 FIX TH FIX W AT OR BELOW 7000 TRK 235 INTERCEPT RADIAL 199 FROM NAVAID CH FIX CH199 FIX DAGONSID DAGON1B FIX DAGON RNW 13 FIX TH FIX W AT OR BELOW 7000 TRK 235 INTERCEPT RADIAL 214 FROM NAVAID CH FIX DAGONSID DAGON2C FIX DAGON RNW 31 FIX RW FIX SC TRK 251 INTERCEPT RADIAL 031 FROM NAVAID CH FIX CH AT OR ABOVE 3000 FIX CH199 FIX DAGONSID DAGON2D FIX DAGON RNW 31 FIX RW FIX SC TRK 251 INTERCEPT RADIAL 031 FROM NAVAID CH FIX CH AT OR ABOVE 3000 FIX DAGONSID DOTMI1A FIX DOTMI RNW 13 FIX TH FIX W AT OR BELOW 7000 TRK 090 INTERCEPT RADIAL 104 FROM NAVAID CH FIX CH100 FIX DOTMISID DOTMI2C FIX DOTMI RNW 31 FIX RW FIX SC TRK 251 INTERCEPT RADIAL 031 FROM NAVAID CH FIX CH AT OR ABOVE 3000 FIX O AT OR BELOW 9000 TRK 090 INTERCEPT RADIAL 104 FROM NAVAID CH FIX CH100 FIX DOTMISID ELATO1A FIX ELATO RNW 13 FIX TH FIX W AT OR BELOW 7000 TRK 090 INTERCEPT RADIAL 104 FROM NAVAID CH FIX CH100 FIX ELATOSID ELATO2C FIX ELATO RNW 31 FIX RW FIX SC TRK 251 INTERCEPT RADIAL 031 FROM NAVAID CH FIX CH AT OR ABOVE 3000 FIX O AT OR BELOW 9000 TRK 090 INTERCEPT RADIAL 104 FROM NAVAID CH FIX CH100 FIX ELATOSID ENVAR1A FIX ENVAR RNW 13 FIX TH FIX W AT OR BELOW 7000 FIX KILOG AT OR BELOW 14000 FIX ENVARSID ENVAR2C FIX ENVAR RNW 31 FIX RW FIX SC TRK 251 INTERCEPT RADIAL 031 FROM NAVAID CH FIX CH AT OR ABOVE 3000 FIX O 9000 FIX KILOG AT OR BELOW 14000 FIX ENVARSID EPDOS1A FIX EPDOS RNW 13 FIX TH FIX W AT OR BELOW 7000 TRK 235 INTERCEPT RADIAL 190 FROM NAVAID CH FIX EPDOSSID EPDOS2C FIX EPDOS RNW 31 FIX RW FIX SC TRK 251 INTERCEPT RADIAL 031 FROM NAVAID CH FIX CH AT OR ABOVE 3000 FIX EPDOSSID IDOSI1A FIX IDOSI RNW 13 FIX TH FIX W AT OR BELOW 7000 TRK 235 INTERCEPT RADIAL 190 FROM NAVAID CH FIX CH190 FIX IDOSISID IDOSI1B FIX IDOSI RNW 13 FIX TH FIX W AT OR BELOW 7000 TRK 235 INTERCEPT RADIAL 205 FROM NAVAID CH FIX IDOSISID IDOSI2C FIX IDOSI RNW 31 FIX RW FIX SC TRK 251 INTERCEPT RADIAL 031 FROM NAVAID CH FIX CH AT OR ABOVE 3000 FIX CH190 FIX IDOSISID IDOSI2D FIX IDOSI RNW 31 FIX RW FIX SC TRK 251 INTERCEPT RADIAL 031 FROM NAVAID CH FIX CH AT OR ABOVE 3000 FIX IDOSISID NOMAN1A FIX NOMAN RNW 13 FIX TH FIX W AT OR BELOW 7000 TRK 136 INTERCEPT RADIAL 117 FROM NAVAID CH FIX CH117 FIX NOMANSID NOMAN1B FIX NOMAN RNW 13 FIX TH FIX W AT OR BELOW 7000 TRK 180 INTERCEPT RADIAL 132 FROM NAVAID CH FIX NOMANSID NOMAN2C FIX NOMAN RNW 31 FIX RW FIX SC TRK 251 INTERCEPT RADIAL 031 FROM NAVAID CH FIX CH AT OR ABOVE 3000 FIX O AT OR BELOW 9000 TRK 090 INTERCEPT RADIAL 117 FROM NAVAID CH FIX CH117 FIX NOMANSID NOMAN2D FIX NOMAN RNW 31 FIX RW FIX SC TRK 251 INTERCEPT RADIAL 031 FROM NAVAID CH FIX CH AT OR ABOVE 3000 FIX O AT OR BELOW 9000 TRK 090 INTERCEPT RADIAL 132 FROM NAVAID CH FIX NOMANSID SABNO1A FIX SABNO RNW 13 FIX TH FIX W AT OR BELOW 7000 TRK 180 INTERCEPT RADIAL 132 FROM NAVAID CH FIX CH132 FIX SABNOSID SABNO1B FIX SABNO RNW 13 FIX TH FIX W AT OR BELOW 7000 TRK 180 INTERCEPT RADIAL 154 FROM NAVAID CH FIX SABNOSID SABNO2C FIX SABNO RNW 31 FIX RW FIX SC TRK 251 INTERCEPT RADIAL 031 FROM NAVAID CH FIX CH AT OR ABOVE 3000 FIX CH175 FIX SABNOSID SABNO2D FIX SABNO RNW 31 FIX RW FIX SC TRK 251 INTERCEPT RADIAL 031 FROM NAVAID CH FIX CH AT OR ABOVE 3000 FIX O AT OR BELOW 9000 FIX SABNOSID SIKOU1A FIX SIKOU RNW 13 FIX TH FIX W TRK 235 INTERCEPT RADIAL 190 FROM NAVAID CH FIX OVERFLY CH190 DIRECT FIX SIKOUSID SIKOU2C FIX SIKOU RNW 31 FIX RW FIX SC TRK 251 INTERCEPT RADIAL 031 FROM NAVAID CH FIX CH AT OR ABOVE 3000 FIX OVERFLY CH190 DIRECT FIX SIKOUSID SIKOU2E FIX SIKOU RNW 31 FIX RW FIX SC TRK 251 INTERCEPT RADIAL 031 FROM NAVAID CH FIX CH AT OR ABOVE 3000 FIX OVERFLY CH214 DIRECT FIX SIKOUENDSIDSSTARSSTAR MAGOG FIX MAGOG FIX A AT OR BELOW 15000 SPEED 250 FIX CH RNW 13STAR MAGOG31 FIX MAGOG FIX A AT OR BELOW 15000 SPEED 250 FIX L RNW 31STAR NOMAN FIX NOMAN FIX CH RNW 13 RNW 31STAR NOMAN31 FIX NOMAN FIX D AT OR BELOW 15000 SPEED 250 FIX L RNW 31STAR SABNO FIX SABNO FIX D AT OR BELOW 15000 SPEED 250 FIX CH RNW 13 RNW 31STAR SABNO31 FIX SABNO FIX D AT OR BELOW 15000 SPEED 250 FIX L RNW 31STAR DUMOL FIX DUMOL FIX CH RNW 13 RNW 31STAR DUMOL31 FIX DUMOL FIX D AT OR BELOW 15000 SPEED 250 FIX L RNW 31STAR IDOSI FIX IDOSI FIX C AT OR BELOW 15000 SPEED 250 FIX CH RNW 13 RNW 31STAR IDOSI31 FIX IDOSI FIX C AT OR BELOW 15000 SPEED 250 FIX L RNW 31STAR DAGON FIX DAGON FIX CH RNW 13 RNW 31STAR DAGON31 FIX DAGON FIX C AT OR BELOW 15000 SPEED 250 FIX L RNW 31STAR SIKOU FIX SIKOU FIX CH RNW 13 RNW 31STAR SIKOU31 FIX SIKOU FIX C AT OR BELOW 15000 SPEED 250 FIX L RNW 31STAR TAMOT FIX TAMOT FIX OVERFLY M DIRECT FIX C 15000 SPEED 250 FIX CH RNW 13STAR TAMOT31 FIX TAMOT FIX OVERFLY M DIRECT FIX C 15000 SPEED 250 FIX L RNW 31ENDSTARSAPPROACHESAPPROACH IGS13 FIX CH 8000 FIX OVERFLY G 6000 SPEED 180 DIRECT FIX SL FIX D15 4500 FIX OM13 FIX MM13 FIX RW RNW 13 HOLD AT FIX TH RIGHT TURN INBOUNDCOURSE 316 ALT 4500 SPEED 230 LEGTIME 1APPROACH IGS13CC FIX CC 8000 FIX OVERFLY CC7 6000 SPEED 180 DIRECT FIX SL FIX D15 4500 FIX OM13 FIX MM13 FIX RW RNW 13 HOLD AT FIX TH RIGHT TURN INBOUNDCOURSE 316 ALT 4500 SPEED 230 LEGTIME 1APPROACH VISUAL13 FIX CH 4500 FIX OVERFLY SC DIRECT FIX RW RNW 13 HOLD AT FIX TH RIGHT TURN INBOUNDCOURSE 316 ALT 4500 SPEED 230 LEGTIME 1APPROACH ILS31 FIX L 4500 FIX TH 2000 RNW 31 FIX RW FIX SC TRK 251 INTERCEPT RADIAL 031 FROM NAVAID CH HOLD AT FIX CH LEFT TURN INBOUNDCOURSE 270 ALT 4500 SPEED 230 LEGTIME 1ENDAPPROACHESGATES// PASSENGER APRONGATE 1 N 22 19.6 E 114 11.6GATE 2 N 22 19.6 E 114 11.7GATE 3 N 22 19.7 E 114 11.7GATE 4 N 22 19.7 E 114 11.7GATE 5 N 22 19.7 E 114 11.7GATE 6 N 22 19.8 E 114 11.8GATE 7 N 22 19.8 E 114 11.8GATE 8 N 22 19.8 E 114 11.8GATE 15 N 22 19.6 E 114 11.7GATE 16 N 22 19.6 E 114 11.8GATE 17 N 22 19.6 E 114 11.8GATE 18 N 22 19.7 E 114 11.8GATE 19 N 22 19.7 E 114 11.8GATE 20 N 22 19.7 E 114 11.9GATE 21 N 22 19.5 E 114 11.8GATE 22 N 22 19.5 E 114 11.8GATE 23 N 22 19.6 E 114 11.8GATE 24 N 22 19.6 E 114 11.9GATE 25 N 22 19.6 E 114 11.9GATE 26 N 22 19.6 E 114 11.9GATE 27 N 22 19.5 E 114 11.8GATE 28 N 22 19.5 E 114 11.8GATE 29 N 22 19.5 E 114 11.9GATE 30 N 22 19.6 E 114 11.9GATE 31 N 22 19.6 E 114 11.9GATE 32 N 22 19.6 E 114 12.0GATE 33 N 22 19.3 E 114 11.9GATE 34 N 22 19.3 E 114 12.0GATE 35 N 22 19.4 E 114 12.0GATE 36 N 22 19.4 E 114 12.0GATE 37 N 22 19.5 E 114 12.0GATE 38 N 22 19.5 E 114 12.0GATE 71 N 22 19.0 E 114 12.2GATE 72 N 22 19.3 E 114 12.2GATE 73 N 22 19.3 E 114 12.2GATE 74 N 22 19.3 E 114 12.2GATE 75 N 22 19.3 E 114 12.3GATE 76 N 22 19.2 E 114 12.3GATE 77 N 22 19.2 E 114 12.4GATE 78 N 22 19.2 E 114 12.4GATE 79 N 22 19.1 E 114 12.4GATE 80 N 22 19.1 E 114 12.4GATE 81 N 22 19.1 E 114 12.5// MAINTENANCE APRONGATE M1 N 22 19.9 E 114 12.0GATE M2 N 22 19.9 E 114 12.1GATE M3 N 22 20.0 E 114 12.2GATE M4 N 22 19.7 E 114 12.0GATE M5 N 22 19.8 E 114 12.1GATE M6 N 22 19.8 E 114 12.1// CARGO APRONGATE Z41 N 22 19.6 E 114 12.1GATE Z43 N 22 19.6 E 114 12.1GATE Z44 N 22 19.6 E 114 12.2GATE Z45 N 22 19.7 E 114 12.2GATE Z46 N 22 19.7 E 114 12.2// Parking APRONGATE 47 N 22 20.0 E 114 12.2GATE 48 N 22 20.1 E 114 12.2GATE 49 N 22 20.1 E 114 12.2GATE 50 N 22 19.4 E 114 11.5GATE 51 N 22 19.5 E 114 11.5GATE 52 N 22 19.5 E 114 11.5GATE 53 N 22 19.4 E 114 11.5GATE 54 N 22 19.4 E 114 11.5GATE 55 N 22 19.4 E 114 11.5GATE 56 N 22 19.4 E 114 11.5GATE 57 N 22 19.4 E 114 11.5GATE 58 N 22 19.4 E 114 11.5GATE 59 N 22 19.4 E 114 11.5GATE 60 N 22 19.4 E 114 11.5ENDGATES--------------------------------John Ellison

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Thanks JohnWill give it a try. Are you using Fly Tampa's Kai Tak?
Many thanks John - that got it!

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Many thanks John - that got it!
Dougal,Send an e-mail to me (at the top of my SIDSTAR file) & I will gladly return a copy of my VHHX SIDSTAR file & the necessary info to get it working.BestSteve

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