Hi there. I have a curious problem when loading saved flights. For most payware a/c, when I save a flight and reload it, I can only use the virtual cockpit, because the 2D cockpit doesn't show up. If I press F10 or any keys to go the 2D cockpit, the 2D cockpit is not visible. What I get is half the screen is the scenery and half the screen is black (where the cockpit should be.) I don't mind using the VC, since it's mostly what I use, but for some functions, I do use the 2D cockpit. I searched the forum and could not find anything like this issue I'm having. Your help is greatly appreciated. Here's my setup:FSX SP2 Core 2 Duo, OC to 3.92 GHZ, GeForce 9800 GTX+, 4 gigs ramWindows XP SP3 32BitRC4Several payware a/cGEX North America and EuropePayware FSUIPCASXXGraphicsFSBuildThanksDavid Bolanos

Here are the FS9 default view commands of interest here:VIEW COMMANDSPanel On/Off-WSnap to Panel View-SHIFT+Num Pad 0Cycle Views (cockpit, virtual cockpit, tower, spot)-SCycle Views Backwards-SHIFT+SDisplay/Hide Add. Panel Windows(radios, engine controls, GPS, and so on.)-SHIFT + 1 through 9If you are only having the panel view problem with RC running, go into the keyboard tab of RC4 and make you do not have conflicting assignments with the FS view assignments.I did not see any reference to F10 in the default view key assignments other then bringing up the knee board. Some proprietary aircraft require you to use icons assignable in their utility to hot keys. If you bring up in PMDG 737/747 aircraft a panel with Shift-Number, it can freeze the panel instruments partly until the screen is refreshed. In the PMDG dropdown in the FS Menu Bar, you can get to a keyboard assignment utility such as using its default FMC view toggle as the hot-key F. Now to get to the PMDG VC (which I do not regularly use just use the hot key for spotview, S, to cycle through the 2D cockpit, VC, spotview, etc.I've never tried using the 2D hotkeys or SHIFT-NUMBER for generic aircraft while in VC so check that out.

Ron:Thank you for your reply. I had tried all the keys you printed, and checked the keyboard under RC4, but everything was okay, and still had the problem. I always load the default flight (Cessna), which is with a default plane and then load the RC flight. I have added loading the 3rd party a/c I'm using in the saved flight after I load the default flight to the process (then load the flight with RC4.) I tried other options today as well, and in one of them I did not use FSAutostart, which I normally use to eliminate unwanted Windows services while I fly. This solved it! I don't know why using FSAutoStart is creating problems when loading a flight with RC4, since all it does is eliminate services, but I have loaded 3 flights without it and I get the 2D panel. I always save my flights in the 2D panel, not in the VC. So, for now, it is solved, although I'm puzzled by FSAutoStart. I will try stopping services manually, and try other flights. I will also try different settings under FSAutostart to see if any changes helps, and will try using FSAutostart and loading a saved flight under FSX (not using RC4). Will add comments if I find something odd/different after trying different scenarios.Thanks,David

I am having the same problem as David, but unlike him, I have yet to find a resolution to this issue. I do not have FSAutoStart installed, so that is not a variable I can change (as David has done with success). I thought that perhaps if I saved the flight while (whilst) in 2D mode vs VC, that it would resolve the issue, but it does not. In a nutshell, here is the situation:I load and fully initialize Active Sky Evolution (ASE), then start FSX. I load the flight (in my case "Enroute Amsterdam to Oslo" - a situation file in which I am level at cruise altitude, Level-D 767). It loads with the 2D panels fully functional at this point. Once it is fully loaded, I start RCv4 and load the corresponding saved rcd. It takes a while for the rcd to load - it apparently reloads the FSX scenery. When RCv4 indicates that it has finally loaded the file successfully, I task-switch back into FSX and it is then that I am unable to see the 2D main or overhead panels. If I toggle "W", I get a small cluster of instruments but never cycles to the full panel. Toggling "S" does nothing to bring back the 2D panels, but other views seem unaffected. I am able to get the FO 2D main and overhead panels however, but switching from FO to CAPT again shows a big blank where the main panel should be.Any ideas would be greatly appreciated, since a big part of RCv4 for me is the ability to load saved situations. This "bug" effectively eliminates this capability for me (2D is more practical for my pruposes than VC both in terms of performance and resolution).Lee

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Lee:I may not be able to help fully, but I notice that you are loading your saved flight using FSX's loading function, and then reload the "same" flight with RC4. I've never loaded it like that, since it's not what RC4's manual recommends, if I recall correctly. RC4 calls for loading the flight using their own loading function. What I do is load my default opening FSX flight, which is the default Cessna 172 at my home airport (I've read in many posts that loading a default FSX plane prior to loading a 3rd party complex addon is almost a requirement to avoid potential odd things happening.) Once everything loads, I open RC4 and load the saved flight using only RC4. It does take a while, like you are experiencing, and that loads every aspect of the saved flight. I know you don't have FSAutostart (FSA), but try the way I outline above and see if it works. As long as I don't use FSA, mine is loading correctly all the time.Regards,David

Thanks, David. Actually, I don't have a default flight per se - FSX loads to a welcome screen where I can choose any number of flights. Maybe the key is loading a different flight, then. Perhaps I can load just to the FSX welcome screen and let RCv4 take it the rest of the way.A couple of things have had some impact. I re-installed RCv4 (did not uninstall the previous install - just simply reinstalled on top of it) - and it worked! ...For the first flight. Then it fell back into the old behavior of not showing the main and overhed 2D captain panels again. But reloading the flight (File -> Reset Flight ...or something like that) seems to bring those panels back. Haven't reloaded enough to say with certainty that it is a consistent and reliable work-around, but I'll report back on that. But I will try your suggestion first - just will not load the saved flight and let RCv4 do that.RCv4 seems quite proud of the saved flight capability - and it's a great enhancement! I just wish it would work properly. Perhaps this is just an RC-LevelD issue, or perhaps it is more fundamental than that. But as young as this thread is, it has 165 views already, so I suspect others may be having some similar issues. I hope JD weighs in on this...Lee

Lee:I may not be able to help fully, but I notice that you are loading your saved flight using FSX's loading function, and then reload the "same" flight with RC4. I've never loaded it like that, since it's not what RC4's manual recommends, if I recall correctly. RC4 calls for loading the flight using their own loading function. What I do is load my default opening FSX flight, which is the default Cessna 172 at my home airport (I've read in many posts that loading a default FSX plane prior to loading a 3rd party complex addon is almost a requirement to avoid potential odd things happening.) Once everything loads, I open RC4 and load the saved flight using only RC4. It does take a while, like you are experiencing, and that loads every aspect of the saved flight. I know you don't have FSAutostart (FSA), but try the way I outline above and see if it works. As long as I don't use FSA, mine is loading correctly all the time.Regards,David

Thanks, David. Actually, I don't have a default flight per se - FSX loads to a welcome screen where I can choose any number of flights. Maybe the key is loading a different flight, then. Perhaps I can load just to the FSX welcome screen and let RCv4 take it the rest of the way.A couple of things have had some impact. I re-installed RCv4 (did not uninstall the previous install - just simply reinstalled on top of it) - and it worked! ...For the first flight. Then it fell back into the old behavior of not showing the main and overhed 2D captain panels again. But reloading the flight (File -> Reset Flight ...or something like that) seems to bring those panels back. Haven't reloaded enough to say with certainty that it is a consistent and reliable work-around, but I'll report back on that. But I will try your suggestion first - just will not load the saved flight and let RCv4 do that.RCv4 seems quite proud of the saved flight capability - and it's a great enhancement! I just wish it would work properly. Perhaps this is just an RC-LevelD issue, or perhaps it is more fundamental than that. But as young as this thread is, it has 165 views already, so I suspect others may be having some similar issues. I hope JD weighs in on this...Lee

i don't know what to say, i don't think it's related to rc in anyway. i don't mess with the views, the drivers, anything related to video. re-loading rcd files has always been problematic with more sophisticated planes, since they themselves are sort of like little programs running on their own. i can't restore their state, like i can default fs planes. personally, i don't have any add-ons installed, i have to keep it simple, and have a consistant foundation for development. otherwise i might be chase my tail trying to find something, only to find out it's a quirk of this plane, or that airport, or that weather.sorry, i can't add much more weight :-)

Thanks, David. Actually, I don't have a default flight per se - FSX loads to a welcome screen where I can choose any number of flights. Maybe the key is loading a different flight, then. Perhaps I can load just to the FSX welcome screen and let RCv4 take it the rest of the way.A couple of things have had some impact. I re-installed RCv4 (did not uninstall the previous install - just simply reinstalled on top of it) - and it worked! ...For the first flight. Then it fell back into the old behavior of not showing the main and overhed 2D captain panels again. But reloading the flight (File -> Reset Flight ...or something like that) seems to bring those panels back. Haven't reloaded enough to say with certainty that it is a consistent and reliable work-around, but I'll report back on that. But I will try your suggestion first - just will not load the saved flight and let RCv4 do that.RCv4 seems quite proud of the saved flight capability - and it's a great enhancement! I just wish it would work properly. Perhaps this is just an RC-LevelD issue, or perhaps it is more fundamental than that. But as young as this thread is, it has 165 views already, so I suspect others may be having some similar issues. I hope JD weighs in on this...Lee

It's not just with the LevelD - in my case it was happening with all the 3rd party complex planes I own (737PIC, PMDG, etc.) Never tried with a default plane, since I don't really use them. I'm just mystified why FSAutostart, which is just a utility, would cause a conflict, but it does somehow. If I'm opening a saved flight, I just don't use FSA. BTW: you can create your own default "saved" flight - mine is with the default Cessna 172, clear weather, at my home municipal airport. This is the first thing I load, before going to the more complex planes.

Well, an interesting phenomenon, but I'm posting it because it may yield a clue as to the mechanics of what is happening. I have found that if I open FSX just to the welcome screen, then load the saved rcd, RC will signal a fault, but at that point, if I load my flight, RC is up and running. No problems - flying along with my main and overhead 2D panels and thinking the problem is resolved, when I decided to ask for a lower altitude. It is then that I discover that while RC is engaged and tracking/guiding my flight appropriately, it will not respond to any keyboard commands (either key-combination requests such as CTL-SHIFT-K, or RC window options such as altitude change requests). Interestingly, I usually fly with my FO in charge of comms, and when I saved the rcd, my FO was in charge of the radios. So he was able to acknowledge instructions and change frequencies. I suspect that if I - as the captain - was in charge of comms on the saved rcd, the missing keyboard-interface functionality would have prevented me from either acknowledging ATC or changing frequencies myself.So in that fashion I was able to complete the flight, albeit in a handicapped fashion. Does this specific malfunction give anyone any further clues (JD)????Lee