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Aircraft Overstressed

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At about 25 nm outside of Fresno I hit approach button to gently turn onto the active LOC. I was travelling at 230kts and descending at 1000fpm to 3000. I started making a gentle 15-20 degree bank to line up on the localizer and poof, aircraft overstressed--no flaps, no gear, no erratic movements. Has anyone else experienced random overstresses?-Phillip

230 knots at 1000ft/min decent at 3000ft about to intercept final approach?is very, very fast indeed.That said overstress is probably a bit unlikley in that situation. Just too fast for profile. (good luck getting down to the ground etc)

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Trent Hopkinson, 2015 Crewmember of www.mangrove.com.au WorldFlight sim

          Youtube channel www.youtube.com/user/musicalaviator

I was 25 miles out; there isn't any reason to slow down to approach speeds at 25 miles--that just backs up traffic. Once level at 3000 I would have had plenty of time to slow down. My goal is to be slow enough to drop the gear at 10 miles--usually about 1-2 dots coming on G/S. I won't slow to 120-130 kts until I'm well within the 10 mile mark, sometimes waiting until short final, on final approach (the J41 slows down real fast once you have some drag out, ie, landing gear.) Could you imagine being 10+ miles out from 25L at LAX and slowing to 130kts? You would have some big tin up your rear real fast--not to mention one really angry TRACON controller.I digress. The real issue is the fluke overstress though. 230kts with a 1000fpm decent a 15-20 degree bank can happen just by tracking your most current nav waypoint. If no one else has had this kind of anomaly I will just chalk this up as FSX hemorrhaging and unrelated to PMDG.I really do enjoy this plane. In fact, if it weren't for poorer salaries, I would rather make a career of flying little commuters for the regionals instead of big tin for the majors. There's just more piloting involved in those little airplanes; especially when you can't just climb above that giant ominous anvil shaped cloud.Respectfully,Phillip

I have to keep the detect collision turned off in MSFS, it's not the pmdg sim that is overstressing but the unreal as it gets platform. Unless you are pulling a couple of G's pulling out of that descent (highly unlikely) it should not have fallen apart.Most terminal areas will slow you to 220 within 20-30 nm, some 210 and some not at all.

Dan Downs KCRP

I have to keep the detect collision turned off in MSFS, it's not the pmdg sim that is overstressing but the unreal as it gets platform. Unless you are pulling a couple of G's pulling out of that descent (highly unlikely) it should not have fallen apart.Most terminal areas will slow you to 220 within 20-30 nm, some 210 and some not at all.
I leave detect collision and the other ones on: EXCEPT overstress causes damage. Partly because the spontaneous wind shipping will blow you out of the sky if you're operating close to the red (or even not close if you're up high and there's a sudden 50k shfit in wind, which doesn't actually happen.) In theory, it would be great that there would be stressing/damage. Hard landing? Check the gear. Overspeed? maybe some minor damage. But, FSX has it as a yes/no question. Either the plane is pristine, or it falls apart in mid-air. No thanks.

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Doug Orvis

PP-ASEL-IA (USA), Based at KHEF

 

Picture courtesy of Kyle Rodgers

I leave detect collision and the other ones on: EXCEPT overstress causes damage. Partly because the spontaneous wind shipping will blow you out of the sky if you're operating close to the red (or even not close if you're up high and there's a sudden 50k shfit in wind, which doesn't actually happen.) In theory, it would be great that there would be stressing/damage. Hard landing? Check the gear. Overspeed? maybe some minor damage. But, FSX has it as a yes/no question. Either the plane is pristine, or it falls apart in mid-air. No thanks.
Exactly why I wish X-Plane would make their sim more technical and add in the ability to simulate aircraft systems. X-Plane combined with FSX would be incredible.

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