April 17, 201016 yr I have a scenery for RJGG, which does not come with the default fs2004. I have a folder for all my AFCAD's at the highest scenery priority, and it's afcad is in there. When I rebuild the RC scenery library, that airport is never recognized.In contrast, VTBS, which also does not come with the stock game, works fine.any ideas? I'm using the newest makerwy.thanks
April 17, 201016 yr Post a link to the scenery if it is freeware. I run FS9 and I can check it if you wish.In your FS root directory there is a file for runways.txt. It is large and takes a few seconds to load in wordpad. Do a search for that airport and look at the sections you find. You may have more than one section. Be sure the last section does not contain just excludes as the last section is the highest priority.In your rc4\data folder there are two files - a4.csv and r4.csv. Make a backup copy of each somewhere and open the backups in wordpad. First do a search for RJGG in r4.csv, the in a4.csv. These will be comma separated fields and a line for each runways and airport respectively.First though it is important that after adding the scenery that you ran FS to let it reindex before running the scenery rebuild from within RC.If all appears good plan a flight originating from RJGG, save it, and paste the first few lines of the plan here that contain the airport name and coordinates. I'd like to compare those with the relevent lines in r4.csv and a4.csv.
April 18, 201016 yr Author strange- runways.txt has no mention of RJGG, as if it were just being skipped over. No entry is present for RJGG in either of the two other files you sugggested. I don't know exactly where the RJGG comes from- I do remember it was a pain to find, but I'll try to find it again. Currenty, the RJGG scenery is second priority, with the AFCAD folder in highest priority in the scenery.cfg. The makerwys simply isn't reading the AFCAD.Would it help if I posted my scenery.cfg? Should I post the AFCAD?thanks for the help
April 18, 201016 yr First, I think you are talking about this airport:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RJGGwhich replaced rjnn http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nagoya_AirfieldI found full FS9 scenery with AFCADs on flightsim.com for both RJNN and RJGG. Registration is free but necessary for scenery downloads. Since there is no default RJNN or RJGGit is best to use a full FS9 scenery plus substitute afcads if you wish. (Files on avsim were lost due to their corruption problem a couple of months ago.)Here is what I found on flightsim.com;Full scenery:Name: nn2k4016.zip Size: 24,100,215 Date: 08-20-2003 Downloads: 8,541FS2004 Scenery--Nagoya Int'l Airport / Komaki Air Base (RJNN), Nagoya, Japan, v0.16. By Eiichi ShimizuName: rjgg_v2.zip Size: 9,879,646 Date: 01-26-2006 Downloads: 6,956FS2004 Scenery--Chubu Centrair International Airport (RJGG), Japan. Scenery by Mitsuya Hamaguchi. Airport island .bgl and texture by Kenichi OchiaiOptional AFCADs:Name: af2_rjnn.zip Size: 165,044 Date: 11-06-2003 Downloads: 1,238FS2004 AFCAD2 File For RJNN, Nagoya Int'l Airport/Komaki AB, Japan, only for the for scenery made by Eiichi Shimizu (NN2K4016.ZIP). AFCAD2 file made by Dario F. FinazziName: nagomaki.zip Size: 87,836 Date: 12-01-2003 Downloads: 1,127FS2004 AFCAD2 Files For RJNN, Japan. Nagoya International Airport handles domestic and internationa flights and is shared by civil aviation and JASDF (Komaki AB squadron). Moreover, the facilities of Mitsubishi (airplane development) is adjacent so fighters come in for maintenance. In this AFCAD2 it is created so that these situations can be reproduced. NN2K4016.ZIP is required. By Hiroaki Kubota.Be sure you use only the afcad in the scenery file or one of the two above.There is another one on flightsim but it does not reference any scenery so while it might stand alone I don't think that would be complete for other reasons I won't go into. It is better to install the scenery and if you want one of the two afcads listed here.After you have registered there highlight files, select file search, and enter the file names above.AVSIM did have older FS2002 and FS2000 afcads but those would in many cases not work.I assume you are running FS9, not FSX.
April 18, 201016 yr Author It's the rjgg_v2.zip one that I'm trying to get to work. The scenery and AFCAD work perfectly in fs9, but refuse to compile into RC.
April 18, 201016 yr Success:There are three AFCAD type files in that scenery, each with different purposes but only one has runways, etc. These do not show up when running AFCD 2.21, the utility but makerwys recognizes them. First be sure you have MakeRunways 4.41 (or beta 4.42). Go into your Flight Simulator 9 folder, right click on makerwys.exe, click properties, the choose the Version tab.4.41 checks for multiple afd files for the same airport and determines the correct one based on the presence of runways, etc. in it. Previous versions do not. There is no need to force a priority with this version and up as was described and you may in fact be forcing the wrong afcad file.First, if I have a choice, I don't place a file in the default Add-on scenery folder. I have a folder where I place all my add-on scenery called CommonAddonScenery on my H: FS drive so I have rjgg installed as h:\CommonAddonScenery\RJGG\. I extracted the zip file rjgg_v2.zip into a temprary folder. I then copied from that temp folder the RJGG folder by highlighting the folder and pasted it into my CommonAddOn folder with the result above. Note the three AF2_ files in the RJGG folderI then started FS, went to settings, scenery library, clicked add, browsed to CommonAddOnScenery, then to RJGG and highlighted, said OK, and then moved it down below other items including below my AFCAD2S folder. I Ok'd it, closed FS, and then restarted it so it reindexed, then closed it. Note that I did not put any of the three AF2 files in my priority AFCAD2S file.After closing FS (the second time) I ran from within RC the scenery database rebuild. I then checked with wordpad safe copies I made of r4.csv and a4.csv and RJGG is in there is in r4.csv:RJGG,0180,34.869862,136.805084,0,176.300,10850,109.70BDG,230,-7.000,34.855240,136.808456,0,,RJGG,0360,34.840618,136.811829,0,356.300,10850,111.90BDG,230,-7.000,34.855240,136.808456,0,,Here is the log section for RJGG in makerunways.txt:Area.202 "RJGG" (Layer=98)Local=..\..\..\CommonAddonScenery\RJGG=============================================================================..\..\..\CommonAddonScenery\RJGG\scenery\AF2_RJG1.bgl=============================================================================Deletions check for Airport RJG1: Delete all taxiways! Delete all runways and starts! Delete all taxiways! COM: Delete all frequencies!=============================================================================..\..\..\CommonAddonScenery\RJGG\scenery\AF2_RJG2.bgl=============================================================================Deletions check for Airport RJG2: Delete all taxiways! Delete all runways and starts! Delete all taxiways! COM: Delete all frequencies!=============================================================================..\..\..\CommonAddonScenery\RJGG\scenery\AF2_RJGG.bgl=============================================================================Deletions check for Airport RJGG: Delete all taxiways! Delete all runways and starts! Delete all taxiways! COM: Delete all frequencies!=============================================================================..\..\..\CommonAddonScenery\RJGG\scenery\AF2_RJG1.bgl=============================================================================Airport RJG1 :N34:46:37.4484 E136:44:00.8256 0ft City Name="Nagoya" Airport Name="Nagoya_W" in file: ..\..\..\CommonAddonScenery\RJGG\scenery\AF2_RJG1.bgl Runway 15 /33 centre: N34:31:42.7818 E136:56:52.4020 0ft Runway 33 closed for take-off Hdg: 138.000 true (MagVar 9.000), CONCRETE, 328 x 7 ft COM: Type=5 (GROUND), Freq=128.69, Name="rjg1" Taxipoint #0, type 1 (normal): N35:05:20.9162 E136:52:44.2328 -- Forward Taxipoint #1, type 1 (normal): N35:05:18.1627 E136:52:37.0923 -- Forward Taxipoint #2, type 1 (normal): N35:05:13.2064 E136:52:32.5974 -- Forward Taxipoint #3, type 1 (normal): N35:04:19.5614 E136:52:08.9147 -- Forward Taxipoint #4, type 1 (normal): N35:03:53.2248 E136:51:54.6172 -- Forward Taxipoint #5, type 1 (normal): N35:04:06.8304 E136:52:01.7451 -- Forward(continues)=============================================================================..\..\..\CommonAddonScenery\RJGG\scenery\AF2_RJG2.bgl=============================================================================Airport RJG2 :N34:46:37.4484 E136:44:00.8256 0ft City Name="Nagoya" Airport Name="Nagoya_W" in file: ..\..\..\CommonAddonScenery\RJGG\scenery\AF2_RJG2.bgl Runway 32 /14 centre: N34:46:36.3146 E136:44:00.1817 -33ft Hdg: 143.500 true (MagVar 9.000), CONCRETE, 328 x 3 ft COM: Type=6 (TOWER), Freq=122.10, Name="rjg1" COM: Type=5 (GROUND), Freq=128.69, Name="rjg1" Taxipoint #0, type 1 (normal): N34:51:25.4340 E136:49:34.1892 -- Forward Taxipoint #1, type 1 (normal): N34:51:18.1777 E136:49:47.5709 -- Forward(continues)=============================================================================..\..\..\CommonAddonScenery\RJGG\scenery\AF2_RJGG.bgl=============================================================================Airport RJGG :N34:51:16.1369 E136:48:26.9934 0ft City Name="NAGOYA" Airport Name="CHUBU" in file: ..\..\..\CommonAddonScenery\RJGG\scenery\AF2_RJGG.bgl Runway 18 /36 centre: N34:51:18.8580 E136:48:30.4599 0ft Start 18 : N34:52:09.3607 E136:48:18.8230 3ft Hdg: 168.0 true Computed start 18 : Lat 34.869862 Long 136.805090 Start 36 : N34:50:28.3228 E136:48:42.0809 3ft Hdg: 349.6 true Computed start 36 : Lat 34.840618 Long 136.811823 Hdg: 169.300 true (MagVar -7.000), ASPHALT, 10850 x 230 ft Primary ILS ID = ICX Primary ILS: ICX 109.70 Hdg: 169.3 , Flags: GS DME BC "ILS/DME 18" Secondary ILS ERROR! There is an ILS, but the Runway record does not ID this!! Secondary ILS: ICY 111.90 Hdg: 349.3 , Flags: GS DME BC "ILS/DME 36" *** There were ILS matching errors. Here's a list of ILSs: ID=ICY: Freq 111.90 Heading 349.3 (Primary), Range 1.09, "ILS/DME 36" ID=ICX: Freq 109.70 Heading 169.3 (Secondary), Range 1.09, "ILS/DME 18" *** Runway *** RJGG0180 Lat 34.869862 Long 136.805084 Alt 0 Hdg 176 Len 10850 Wid 230 ILS 109.70, Flags: GS DME BC *** Runway *** RJGG0360 Lat 34.840618 Long 136.811829 Alt 0 Hdg 356 Len 10850 Wid 230 ILS 111.90, Flags: GS DME BC COM: Type=6 (TOWER), Freq=118.85, Name="Centrair" COM: Type=5 (GROUND), Freq=121.80, Name="Centrair" COM: Type=7 (CLEARANCE), Freq=121.85, Name="Centrair" COM: Type=8 (APPROACH), Freq=119.17, Name="Centrair" COM: Type=8 (APPROACH), Freq=121.05, Name="Centrair" COM: Type=5 (GROUND), Freq=126.20, Name="Centrair" COM: Type=1 (ATIS), Freq=127.07, Name="RJGG" COM: Type=9 (DEPARTURE), Freq=121.22, Name="Centrair" COM: Type=6 (TOWER), Freq=126.25, Name="Centrair" COM: Type=7 (CLEARANCE), Freq=126.20, Name="Centrair" COM: Type=9 (DEPARTURE), Freq=120.00, Name="Centrair" Taxipoint #0, type 2 (Hold Short): N34:50:29.9425 E136:48:44.8892 -- Forward Taxipoint #1, type 1 (normal): N34:50:29.4566 E136:48:41.8235 -- Forward Taxipoint #2, type 1 (normal): N34:52:15.8072 E136:48:17.3486 -- Forward Taxipoint #3, type 1 (normal): N34:51:29.9044 E136:48:40.2945 -- Forward Taxipoint #4, type 1 (normal): N34:52:12.3734 E136:48:30.4970 -- Forward Taxipoint #5, type 1 (normal): N34:51:35.1199 E136:48:39.0745 -- Forward Taxipoint #6, type 1 (normal): N34:51:36.8368 E136:48:49.6270 -- Forward Taxipoint #7, type 1 (normal): N34:51:36.1242 E136:48:50.8485 -- Forward Taxipoint #8, type 1 (normal): N34:51:25.1101 E136:48:53.4879 -- Forward(continues)This shows that the that it seems both AF2_RG1 and AF2_RG2 have short runways. Short runways are excluded from the RC database to get rid of pseudo runways used in a technique called the STAR or CROSSWIND technique to make non-parallel runways look like parallel runways in FS. Only AF2_RJGG.bgl has the correct layout for the runways 18/36 which is 1850 feet long. The others only do excludes and have other short runways properties RC is not concerned with and are excluded from its database. That is the last processed is AF2_RJGG and it takes priority.(I don't know what the short runways facilitate. It may be ground vehicles or other special stuff. Maybe that's what the AI models are.)I don't know why you do not have RJGG in makerunways.txt at all. There are several files and two folders in there. The AI_Airline folder goes into your Aircraft folder under FS9 if you are going to use the furnished flight plan. the traficxxxx.bgl goes into Flight Simulator 2004\Scenery\World\scenery\ in your path. The two fx files go into Microsoft Games\Flight Simulator 2004\Effects\. I did not install the AI model and traffic plan.Be sure you clear out any AF2_RJGxx.bgl in that priority AFCAD2s folder before running from within RC the database rebuild. If needed AF2_RJGG.bgl is the one needing priority in that AFCAD2s folder and that is the only one from this scenery that should be in there but try other things first. If you wish just reinstall the scenery as I described. (It makes it easier for me to add new scenery.) Again make sure your version of makerwys.exe is 4.41 or higher.Post here if all works OK.
April 18, 201016 yr I figured out the the RJG1 and RJG2 afcad files. The traffic file supplied and the AI folder supplied are two AI cruise ships and their movement schedule. Those two afcads are the paths used and actually in that traffic bgl serve in effect as special airports RJG1 and RJG2. You can look at these in AFCAD by searching for those names as airports. As explained before they will not show up in RC's database. Each afcad consists of a short runway and a bunch of taxi paths and docks for the ships to cruise on according to that traffic schedule. The paths are transparent so you will not see taxi lines for the cruise ships.The only file that affects RC is the AF2_RJGG afcad. As stated, it is showing up in my RC database.
April 20, 201016 yr Author thanks so much for the help-I took out the ship scenery, and only put AF2_RJGG in my afcad folder, and it's still giving me problems. I ran the AFCAD through ADE's fault finder, but that shouldn't be causing problems because I do that with all of my afcad's and this is the only one that's giving me problems.Maybe I should try emailing you my version of AF2_RJGG, and you can see if that works for you? I would just attatch it here but avsim won't let me.thanks
April 20, 201016 yr rjgg_v2 I downloaded from flightsim.com and installed. I did not have to move AF2_RJGG into the priority AFCAD2 folder and also left the RJG1 and RJG2 files intact. The last two are coded for different airport signatures and will not interfere with RJGG. If you are using a different AF2_RJGG.bgl file then the one included in the scenery I'll send you my e-mail in a PM.Put the original AF2_RJGG.bgl file back in the scenery folder of RJGG with the other object bgls. It should have read OK.
April 20, 201016 yr Author I'm sorry to say it's still not working. I took the AFCAD out of the highest priority folder, and put it in the RJGG folder, ran the game, and then quit and ran the RC compiler. The airport does not show up in any of the files.This is the only airport I've had trouble with.any other ideas?thanks
April 20, 201016 yr Be sure the afcads are in the RJGG/scenery/ folder, not in the RJGG/ folder.These afcads are for FS9 only which you are running, right? You only have RC installed for FS9, right?Check just the properties of r5.csv in in your Flight Simulator 9/folder to see when it was last modified. This is to insure the process ran. It should the match the date in your RCv4/data/ folder for r4.csv. This insures that it was created from the data in your FS folder.What operating system are you running?FS9 places your scenery.cfg for all operating systems in your flight simulator 9 folder. Please open that with notepad. Please find all sections in it for RJGG there and paste those sections in a reply here.I think the easiest way to trouble shoot this is to follow the procedure I outlined about and remove and reinstall the airport folder according to my instructions in a simple folder. Delete it from your current scenery settings in FS. You may wish to download again that zip file I found on flightsim.com. Just rename the one you have. Do not use any other AFCAD file supplied other than this one from this scenery. (There are some for FSX. Do not install those.)Create a folder on your FS hard drive as outlined. Call it Common AddOns files so you have X:\Common Add-On files where X is your FS drive.Unzip the downloaded file into a new folder called RJGGV2install. Highlight the RJGG folder within it and right click then copy. Now open the newly created Common Addons folder. In its window right click and select paste. The folder RJGG should not appear. Open that folder and you should see the scenery and texture folders. open the scenery folders and the AF2_files should be in there.Close out all the folders. Start FS and go tothe scenery library. Click Add. Browse to X:\Common Addons. Further browse to RJGG under that and click on it so the name shows up in the Add window. Click OK and it should go to the number one position in the list and leave it there. OK everything and stop FS. Restart it and let it index and rebuild its scenery database.Close FS.Now start only AFCAD221 (not ADE) and open airports. (We want AFCAD to do the search.) Search for RJGG and open the layer. It should show the long runway. If AFCAD 221 can not find RJGG then something is not correct. If you can open the layer and there should only be one the click on File Properties and it should look like what I attached here. Note the path at the bottom of the window.Start RC and start the scenery rebuild process. Assuming RC and FS9 are on the same computer answer No to the window is This a WideFS Computer. The next window asks for a path to FS9. Enter the full path such as X:\program files\microsoft games\flight simulator 9 and OK. The next window says something about Makerwys.exe Build 4.41 something. OK that.Make runways should run counting down all of your airports and runways. When it is done a similar Makerwys window will state Finished and an OK prompt will appear. Click That. The next window will be think r5.csv rebuilding. Click OK if needed. The next window I think say Finished rebuilding r5.csv. Click OK. The next window states Copying r5 or r4.csv and if necessary click OK. The next windows states RC building a4.csv. Click OK. The next window states RC finished building a4.csv. Click OK. Wait a minute then close RC.Now we can see if it worked. Go into rcv4/data folder. Open with Wordpad r4.csv and search for RJGG. There should be two lines for each runway. Close wordpad without saving anything. Do the same for a4.csv.If they are there then start RC and see if it accepts your flight plan originating at RJGG. You don't have to start FS to check this.I know this is long but better to start over now including a new download. As I said I am not experiencing this problem.
April 22, 201016 yr Author I just compiled everything again. I'm using Vista 32, and start RC4 as administrator.1. My r5.csv file in the FS9 folder says it was last modified Saturday, September 19, 2009, 2:57:54 PM. The r4.csv was last modified at the same time- which is strange because I just ran it. Does this make sense, or is this the root of the problem? While RC is compiling it goes through each folder, and the total # of airports and runways change, so it is doing something, and I have to click the OK boxes at the end as it goes through.2. My current scenery.cfg entries that affect RJGG are as follows:[Area.646]Title=RJGGLocal=Addon Scenery\RJGGRemote=Active=TRUERequired=FALSELayer=642[Area.642]Title=Trouble AFCADLocal=Trouble AFCADRemote=Active=TRUERequired=FALSELayer=643Trouble AFCAD contains only AFCAD BGL's for different airports and is at the top of the list. Other non-default airports like VTBS have their AFCAD's in this folder and they function perfectly. RJGG is just below the AFCAD folder in priority.4. In fs9 itself, the airport shows up and functions perfectly, so it is enabled and working correctly.5. After compiling, there is no entry to RJGG in the r4.csv file, but there are for VTBS. I'm just bringing up VTBS again for comparison, to show that some things are compiling while other's aren't.Anyway, this is all using my set-up, and might give you a clearer picture. When I get time I will try it your way and make a separate Common Addon folder and try again, but I don't see how it should affect things. I am going to try though, because I've completely run out of ideas.Thanks so much for the help.
April 22, 201016 yr Regardless of priority the fact that RJGG does not show up at all in runways.txt means it is not seen at all. FS9 seems to have a limit of 999 layers and areas and that looks OK.I'll wait to you do the suggested redownload and reinstall.
April 23, 201016 yr I have just received information that if you have any missing area numbers that makerwys will stop reading and proceed to finalize its data.Download fsm285.zip from the avsim library and install it. It is shareware and no longer supported. You might have to set your PC date back to run it or download this utility to start the first download, startfsm.zip. That takes care of the date problem without having to reset it on your PC. Folloe the instructions on the second item unzipping that into your FSM folder and pointing your FSM shortcut to that new exe which will then in turn start FSM.Make a safe copy of scenery.cfg to another folder before you run its scenery.cfg checker. See if it detects any missing area numbers or out of order. When it starts after it reads folders click the menu icon with the head, shirt tie, and it will open a diagnostic wind. Select the scenery tab and then scan scenery. I would not worry about mismatched layers. Those have not bothered me.I don't think the unregistered version will fix anything but it should alert you to possible problems.I did have one missing area but it apparently is not affecting me with makerwys.
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