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ABC news report, wrongly informing us about the 747?

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Hey, It seems that back in 1982 a Boeing 747 lost all engines after flying through an ash cloud, which is true. But it seems the pilot stuck his head out of the window to land the play (even thou you can't open the Jumbo's windows)?Skip to 01:40 and listen to the end.Enjoy Jameshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndwkhz0IZxA...feature=related

Hey, It seems that back in 1982 a Boeing 747 lost all engines after flying through an ash cloud, which is true. But it seems the pilot stuck his head out of the window to land the play (even thou you can't open the Jumbo's windows)?Skip to 01:40 and listen to the end.Enjoy Jameshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndwkhz0IZxA...feature=related
I know on planes like the Airbus A320 and Boeing 737 you can open the windows on the side, but I do not think it is possible with the 747. Anyway, if he really stuck his head out of the window with ash in the air in a plane traveling over 150 mph he would probably would damage his eyes, face, and especially his lungs. I don't even think anybody would want to stick there head out of a moving object at 80 mph with just air, unless they want there eyes to sting badly and get there face torn off.

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gman!

"Impossible things are simply those which so far have never been done." - Elbert Hubbard

The 747 doesn't have opening windows at all. That is why there is an overhead escape hatch in the flight deck.Tim

Timothy D. Herman (midcon385)

KMDT -- Harrisburg Int'l Airport, PA

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why ABC News reporter are allowed to tell such a crap?!?? I know, many do not know better. But some can think about it - a jumbo approaches with a speed of around 200 to 140 knots. Just a short conversion on the internet and we got 230mh to 161mph or 370km/h to 259km/h. NO one would stick his head out of any windows at that speed!!! No one would keep the head - it would get ripped off!Sure they got located and guided by tower and got to the ILS using autoland which is supported with the B747-200 already. But how did they got over the mountains to the airport??? They did not have a moving map GPS back then.

Regards, Torben Hadler

 

Glideslope was out of service. They had to use the Localizer and PNF Callouts on altitude for a descent path (Essentially, a Localizer/DME Approach). and then land more or less blindly. You can get over a mountain through simple use of a chart, and/or ATC direction/information. I also beg to differ on sticking your head out the window....... I do 120 knots in a cherokee all the time, , never have any issues sticking my hand out the window, an extra 40 knots wouldn't exactly change that. If my hand can do it, my face can do it, Just have to wear some goggles for eye protection when doing 160~ knots :(Remember, there have been plenty of men and women whom have pulled the handle between their legs doing 400+knots, Most of them are doing A-okay today ;)

why ABC News reporter are allowed to tell such a crap?!?? I know, many do not know better. But some can think about it - a jumbo approaches with a speed of around 200 to 140 knots. Just a short conversion on the internet and we got 230mh to 161mph or 370km/h to 259km/h. NO one would stick his head out of any windows at that speed!!! No one would keep the head - it would get ripped off!Sure they got located and guided by tower and got to the ILS using autoland which is supported with the B747-200 already. But how did they got over the mountains to the airport??? They did not have a moving map GPS back then.

"(even thou you can't open the Jumbo's windows)"?At AirVenture 50 / Oshkosh a 747 ironically from Iceland did flybys and then landed. As it taxied into the display area, the Pilot was hanging out of a side cockpit window waving a flag. I don't know if it is possible to open that window in flight or not. Respectfully:RTH

"(even thou you can't open the Jumbo's windows)"?At AirVenture 50 / Oshkosh a 747 ironically from Iceland did flybys and then landed. As it taxied into the display area, the Pilot was hanging out of a side cockpit window waving a flag. I don't know if it is possible to open that window in flight or not. Respectfully:RTH
Are you sure it wasn't the hatch on the roof? It's not directly in the center of the roof, it's over to the left side a bit above the flight deck. I've never seen a single 747 of any model with opening side windows.Tim

Timothy D. Herman (midcon385)

KMDT -- Harrisburg Int'l Airport, PA

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Hello Tim:I'll bet you are right. It has been several years ago and it want be the first thing this old memory gets confused about. I peeked at my photographs that I have on my computer and did not see it, so it must be among the gobbs of 8mm video tapes I filmed. I know I filmed it with something and was facinated by the flyby speed and the short landing roll for such an elephant. She was in the taxi mode by the time she came into view after touchdown on the runway. It will take a while to locate it, but when I do I will respond. Best I remember it was a 747-200, flown by the President or CEO of the Iceland Airline. I'll check the proper name when I find it.Thanks for the question.To be continued:RTHTim was right. The opening was just to the rear and above the left side window. I did not have a tripod, so my film work was very shaky, but I believe the airline was Air Atlantic, according to the guy on the Mike giving the color an Icelantic airline. The Pilots name was Argrimur Johanson if I heard the broadcaster spell it correctly.Happy flying:RTH

Are you sure it wasn't the hatch on the roof? It's not directly in the center of the roof, it's over to the left side a bit above the flight deck. I've never seen a single 747 of any model with opening side windows.Tim

Air Atlanta Icelandic, then. They're an ACMI (Aircraft, Crews, Maintenance, Insurance) operator/wet leaser for charter and cargo operations. According to a look on Wikipedia, Capt. Arngrimur Johannsson is the founder of the company. Current fleet includes Airbus A300-600RFs, and 747-200s, -300s, and -400s. Tim

Timothy D. Herman (midcon385)

KMDT -- Harrisburg Int'l Airport, PA

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