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Okay I just remembered that WOAI doesn't support DX10 so make sure you have that disabled. Also, the WOAI aircraft don't show up during the daytime because they don't support one of the shadow options during the day. Try disabling DX10 preview and/or going to an airport during the night time. I'll get back to you on the option you have to disable.Okay, you have to go to in FSX to settings>aircraft, and make sure you have both aircraft casts shadows on the ground and aircraft casts shadows on itself disabled. WOAI planes don't support this feature. A way to check if this is the problem is opening up in the sim at nightime.
okay I tried both going to a night mode and shutting off the shadows but I still have no airplanes. I realize that you are probably tired of trying to help but please help me resolve the problem.Thank you,airindia16

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It's no problem to me helping you, the only problem is that I'm running out of Ideas. The only thing I can think (besides doing a repair of FSX or completely reinstalling it), is to re-install your ai packages again (later converting the BGL's to FSX format so you won't lose boat traffic, etc. and for full compatibility to ensure no problems.) I say this because sometimes it seems the WOAI installer doesn't install packages correctly, at least in my case. When I installed Continental Airlines, I kept on getting a message when I started FSX that the planes the continental airlines BGL used couldn't be found. I also couldn't see Continental Airlines in the sim. I re-installed the package, still the same problem. Finally, I re-installed the Continental Airlines package again and I got no more error messages and could see the Continental ai in the sim. So, before re-installing the game, I would recommend re-installing the packages. Make sure you are running the WOAI installer as an administrator, either by righ-clicking and selecting run as... and then clicking administrator, or by the method I described in the steps. Keep on posting to see if I can keep on helping, but also try going to the WOAI forums and asking there as I did when I had your problem, although, no one really was able to help me and I fixed the problem by re-installing the sim.Good luck, keep me informed to see if you've made progress or if you have any questions/suggestions I can further make.


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It's no problem to me helping you, the only problem is that I'm running out of Ideas. The only thing I can think (besides doing a repair of FSX or completely reinstalling it), is to re-install your ai packages again (later converting the BGL's to FSX format so you won't lose boat traffic, etc. and for full compatibility to ensure no problems.) I say this because sometimes it seems the WOAI installer doesn't install packages correctly, at least in my case. When I installed Continental Airlines, I kept on getting a message when I started FSX that the planes the continental airlines BGL used couldn't be found. I also couldn't see Continental Airlines in the sim. I re-installed the package, still the same problem. Finally, I re-installed the Continental Airlines package again and I got no more error messages and could see the Continental ai in the sim. So, before re-installing the game, I would recommend re-installing the packages. Make sure you are running the WOAI installer as an administrator, either by righ-clicking and selecting run as... and then clicking administrator, or by the method I described in the steps. Keep on posting to see if I can keep on helping, but also try going to the WOAI forums and asking there as I did when I had your problem, although, no one really was able to help me and I fixed the problem by re-installing the sim.Good luck, keep me informed to see if you've made progress or if you have any questions/suggestions I can further make.
okay thanks for your help, but when you say "I also couldn't see Continental Airlines in the sim. I re-installed the package, still the same problem. Finally, I re-installed the Continental Airlines package again and I got no more error messages and could see the Continental ai in the sim. "did you reinstall it twice?is there anyway to uninstall the entire Woai (but only that) and then reinstall it?

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Excuse me for butting in, but unless I missed it, I do not see any confirmation that the WOAI packages were ever properly installed.Have you looked in your Scenery/World/scenery subfolder and confirmed that the WOAI Traffic files are really there?The would look something like this:Traffic_000_WoA_American Airlines_Su08.bgltraffic_000_woa_air canada_su08_fs9.bgl etc. etc.And did you also confirm that the aircraft actually got installed properly?In your SimObjects/Airplanes folder you should be seeing entries similar to this:WoA_AIA_B737WoA_AIA_B742_PW WoA_AIA_B733v2_Normaletc. etc.If either is missing, then WOAI Traffic cannot display.If I were having this issue I sure would start by checking the WOAI install first.

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Excuse me for butting in, but unless I missed it, I do not see any confirmation that the WOAI packages were ever properly installed.Have you looked in your Scenery/World/scenery subfolder and confirmed that the WOAI Traffic files are really there?The would look something like this:Traffic_000_WoA_American Airlines_Su08.bgltraffic_000_woa_air canada_su08_fs9.bgl etc. etc.And did you also confirm that the aircraft actually got installed properly?In your SimObjects/Airplanes folder you should be seeing entries similar to this:WoA_AIA_B737WoA_AIA_B742_PW WoA_AIA_B733v2_Normaletc. etc.If either is missing, then WOAI Traffic cannot display.If I were having this issue I sure would start by checking the WOAI install first.
Oh yes, thank you for your input Opa but both were/are present.

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Opa, you're suggestions are welcome, as you were very helpful when you helped me.

okay thanks for your help, but when you say"I also couldn't see Continental Airlines in the sim. I re-installed the package, still the same problem. Finally, I re-installed the Continental Airlines package again and I got no more error messages and could see the Continental ai in the sim. "did you reinstall it twice?is there anyway to uninstall the entire Woai (but only that) and then reinstall it?
Yes, there is a way to do this. Open up the WOAI installer. Press next. Choose FSX as your target sim. Click expert at the bottom. The click on the airlines and on the left panel, click delete airline. Then install the airlines again. (I deleted and re-downloaded the installer when I had this problem. I know the installer probably wasn't faulty but I downloaded a new one, just in case, to start everything anew.)On a side note, as Opa said, I know you said that your BGL's are in the correct place, but are you sure that when you open the WOAI installer your path to FSX is correct, and also it says simobjects/airplanes under FSX subfolder entry?

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Opa, you're suggestions are welcome, as you were very helpful when you helped me.Yes, there is a way to do this. Open up the WOAI installer. Press next. Choose FSX as your target sim. Click expert at the bottom. The click on the airlines and on the left panel, click delete airline. Then install the airlines again. (I deleted and re-downloaded the installer when I had this problem. I know the installer probably wasn't faulty but I downloaded a new one, just in case, to start everything anew.)On a side note, as Opa said, I know you said that your BGL's are in the correct place, but are you sure that when you open the WOAI installer your path to FSX is correct, and also it says simobjects/airplanes under FSX subfolder entry?
okay so basically i had a problem with my computer so I had to completly start from scratch. Right now I am in the process of installing woai and it seems to be working fine because at EWR the airport was cramped with Continental airlines. So, thanks for your help and I'll keep you updated as i progress in the installation.thanks again,airindia16

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Okay, I am happy your problem if being fixed. Now, when you have your airlines installed can you do me a favor and post another picture of you at KFLL and please post the time and date so I can compare with my sim. This is because,as you may know, I had a problem similar to yours and, as I said, I seem to have fixes it, but my traffic is still less than what I had in FSX, so I will like to use your picture to compare.Thanks.


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okay so i have compeltled the reinstallation and it is evidently back to normal as my airports are flooded with aircraft; at 65% Kfll looks as shown. I do appreciate the help everyone gave and if anyone who is looking at this is experiencing the same problem, I suggest a reinstallation because it pays off in the end.

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I'm glad your problem was fixed and thanks for the picture. I'm sorry to be a bother, but can you post another picture of Kfll but with traffic set to 100%. Thanks, I would appreciate this because, as I said before, my problem got fixed but I'm still getting less traffic than what I had in fs9, and I would like to rectify if my traffic quantity is normal too. I suspect it is, but I would like you to please post a picture at KFLL with traffic at 100% so I can see how much traffic you have in comparison to me so I can be completely sure mine is working fine.Thanks.


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I'm glad your problem was fixed and thanks for the picture. I'm sorry to be a bother, but can you post another picture of Kfll but with traffic set to 100%. Thanks, I would appreciate this because, as I said before, my problem got fixed but I'm still getting less traffic than what I had in fs9, and I would like to rectify if my traffic quantity is normal too. I suspect it is, but I would like you to please post a picture at KFLL with traffic at 100% so I can see how much traffic you have in comparison to me so I can be completely sure mine is working fine.Thanks.
haha no prob I really appreciate the time you spent helping me so, I dont mind.this is kfll 17:21 gate b7 and it is surprising empty...

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Okay thank you very much airindia. I am now assured that my ai is working fine even with 100% density. It still puzzles me how people on Youtube can have practically all of their gates filled except for one or two with WOAI traffic at 100%. I guess that they just have more airlines installed than you and me. Anyways, thanks that you added that picture and I'm glad both are problems are completely fixed.


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Okay thank you very much airindia. I am now assured that my ai is working fine even with 100% density. It still puzzles me how people on Youtube can have practically all of their gates filled except for one or two with WOAI traffic at 100%. I guess that they just have more airlines installed than you and me. Anyways, thanks that you added that picture and I'm glad both are problems are completely fixed.
Having the gates completely filled isn't really realistic anyway. I've never visited a major airport in real life where every gate has an a/c parked at it. I have spent a lot of time at KFLL in person and I can assure you that the gates there aren't full all of the time, more like 80% to 90% occupied during the day. The only time they may be at or near capacity is in the middle of the night when no one is comming or going.

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yeah very true; moreover, logically, they cant be full because otherwise all arrivals would be waiting on the tarmac for a gate; so I assume that if you wait for some time and use the time acceleration there may be more aircraft at a particular aircraft.Good observation! :D

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Having the gates completely filled isn't really realistic anyway. I've never visited a major airport in real life where every gate has an a/c parked at it. I have spent a lot of time at KFLL in person and I can assure you that the gates there aren't full all of the time, more like 80% to 90% occupied during the day. The only time they may be at or near capacity is in the middle of the night when no one is comming or going.
Yeah, you are right. I too have been in KFLL and KMIA and it is true, now that I think about it, that not all gates are filled. I even looked at this via google maps today.

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