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Windows XP Patch Q811493 Frame Hit ??

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I understand that MS had admitted that their Patch Q811493 for Win XPresulted in a significant reduction in the Frame Per Second (fps) in the FS 2002 and FS9.MS is now saying that the patch has been updated so it no longer causes significant reductions in FPS.Has anyone experience with the updated patch Q811493, and is the MSclaim correct, that there is no adverse impact to the FPS?Thank you.Stanner

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Stanner,I posted a warning last Sunday on these pages with this warning. After contacting MS Technical help I was pointed to an updated file to download and installing this has resolved the problem.Here's the link. You'll need to copy and paste it for it to work.http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details...&displaylang=enThe download link is on the right.Cheers,

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Ray, I followed this link and installed the newer version (thanks loads for this "heads-up").There is no release date shown in "Control Panel", but the version number is: 20021212.173024.It seems this number came up before my "change".Can you confirm the newer version via this number?Thanks again!

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Bob,I'm not sure where you got that number from, I can't find an equivalent anywhere. However, if you've downloaded the file the version number of the exe is 5.3.0016.5. If yours is the same then you have the same update as me.Cheers,

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Bob and Ray (makes a good radio show name :-) ) - Maybe this will help clear up the dates for this patch. The version number for the May 28th release should show as 20030424.101451 . The easiest way to verify what's on the system at present is to check the date of ntoskrnl.exe (WindowsSystem32ntoskrnl.exe). The date will show as 04-24-2003 if it's the latest version provided by the latest patch. If the date of this file shows as 12-12-2002 then the "problem" update is still there. But, not everyone who has applied this patch has experienced the framerate issue. So, if it ain't broke.....DougPS: One way to get the version number is Control PanelAdd Remove Programs, highlight the update and then click on the support information link. Others?

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Hi Doug,Thanks for the clarification. The date of my EXE is 24 April 2003, 08:57:50. The Version of Windows XP Hotfix (SP2) Q811493 is 20030424.101451. Looks like I'm okay.I must insist on Ray and Bob. Not that I'm pretentious of course :-lol Cheers,

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I d/l'd & installed this update twice now (both times uninstalling the previous patch beforehand, and rebooting afterward) and both times when I checked the version of ntoskrnl it listed the 12/12 file version. What's up with that?-Max Cowgill

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Thanks Ray, so far so good, no slow down at all.

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Max,It could be using the one held in your cache instead. That's what Microsoft said to me. Check for a folder called WUTEMP and see what's in it. You can safely delete everything including the folder itself. It might be on a drive other than your C. Mine is on my D.Once the cache is clear run the EXE again and you should be okay.Cheers,

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Thanks Ray,still no go however. I deleted the WUTemp folder (even though there was nothing in it) and re-installed the patch yet the ntoskrnl remains the same. Is having XP SP1 installed a prerequisite for this update? If that's the case, I can understand why it won't install since I don't have SP1 installed.-Max Cowgill

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You do need to have SP1 installed for this to work.

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Max,I, like Kurt, have the SP1 patch installed. I'd strongly recommend you install that first. Despite what some may think it does reduce, not increase, the number of bugs in XP.:-hah Cheers,

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I think the jury's still out on that one Ray. I'll wait until SP2 (actually, I'd rather wait until the next consumer version of Windows comes out but we'll see).-Max Cowgill

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Ray,sorry, I was out all day doing errands.I checked the file in my System32 folder, and after reading ahead (to catch up), I'm like Max ... No SP-1.Oh well, I think maybe I dodged the slowdown (but how would I know?).More importantly, OK ... OK "RAY & BOB" is good with me ... I'm in good company ... !

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I would like to thank all of you for your replies. For those with Win XP Pro, you can go the MS site via the ugrade facility in Win XP.The patch listed is the latest one, and has been updated to correct the FPS situation. I just installed this patch and had no FPS hit. Every thing was just fine.Stanner

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Thanks Ray!I was having the slowdown problem with the old version of this patch.I installed the one from the link that you provided and NO slow downs with the new one!Scott

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Bob/Max,I'm not quite sure why you wouldn't want to install SP1 if you're happy to install separate patches that MS make available. It's your call of course but it still baffles me.Bob, you'll know if you have the FR problem - frame rates will be half what they should be. If you can remember what you should be getting at Meigs in FS2002 the performance in FS2004 should be pretty close.Cheers,

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