September 16, 201015 yr Has anybody done this flight from London to Zurich as described in the tutorial and what was the result ?As far as I am concerned I have not achieved the flight having problems with the STAR and the landing.The tutorial suggests to extend flap 15 between the waypoints Gipol and TRA/10.When I do this I get a message "flap overspeed" after which I did the following :Retract flaps,deploy spoiler in order to reduce speed,then flaps 15 again.Still same message.After ignoring the message and leave flaps at 15 the message stops but I cannot land.For whatever reason the plane does not catch the G/S and I overfly the airport at 4000 feet.Can anybody give me some ideas of what is going wrong and what the proper procedure is.Am I coming in too fast and how can I reduce the speed to say 215 knots ?Thank you for your helpHubert Werni
September 16, 201015 yr Robi77, I had a similar problem this morning (FSX version). Some of my experience might not be relevent, but I'll throw it in just in case. In my case I had saved the flight a few days ago, just after reaching cruise level (FL370). For some reason the FMC would not initially give me the approach speed despite the STAR and approach being correctly entered. Also the plane was holding altitude just a little under 37,000 ft. I had to fiddle with the FMC a bit, re-entering the cruise flight level, and I also right-clicked and left clicked some things in the weights page, which were already correct (as far as I knew). Somewhere in amongst this the FMC managed to then give me the correct approach speed as per the tutorial. I re-adjusted the figure in the altitude window and the plane climbed the few feet to FL370.I set 4,000 ft in the altitude window and the plane started to descend as expected at the TOD point. But at 10,000 ft it just carried on descending without first reducing the airspeed. I only noticed this half way between Gipol and TRA/10. I tried pressing the FMC speed button below the speed window, and noticed that dashes then replaced whatever was in that window before, and the plane slowed in time for me to extend the flaps and gear, and complete the autoland.I have not yet worked out if I missed something, or if it was caused in some way by saving and loading. I shall repeat the tutorial from scratch in one sitting (when time and the wife allow) and also from my saved situation, and see what happens differently.If none of this helps you, perhaps try repeating Tutorial 1 youreself and post screenshots of your pannels. Regards, PD
September 17, 201015 yr Author Wife problems are standard operating proceedure for this PMDG sim....Just say its a matter of world importance .............its great isn't it?.. She just doesn't get it? Please tell me one that does?? OK Make sure you use the PMDG load menu to get your weights and fuel spot on. Then load sim from there.Once the FMC has its plan ( check this out thoroughly) this wonderful aircraft will fly it for you. You should be able to let it fly you onto the runway. Put in Storms, 300' ceiling 15knot crosswind and fly it at night, its trully wonderful.:( When the runway illuminates at 400' or so you will want to be single:LMAO: Watch the FMC waypoints in the SIDS and STARS they may throw up an extra LSZH? Get the FMC plan spot on. All speeds and altitudes depend upon weights!Best wishes David HarrisonI have a specific question : when you were between Gipol and TRA/10 did you put the flaps to 15 ? And by doing so did you also get an error message" flaps overspeed " ? And if so how did you correct it ? This happens when I do the flight.ThanksHubert Werni
September 17, 201015 yr I have a specific question : when you were between Gipol and TRA/10 did you put the flaps to 15 ? And by doing so did you also get an error message" flaps overspeed " ? And if so how did you correct it ? This happens when I do the flight.ThanksHubert Werni Ron Service .
September 17, 201015 yr Normally,In preparation for descent and landing,DIAL A FLAP is set to 15,not flaps,also,the descent profile altitude is set to usually an altitude where the G/S can be captured.The FMS will alert to add drag (speed brakes),to reduce speed.The flap alerts on the HSI will be amber if your speed is too high.When the alerts turn green,then you can set the flaps to that position.This aircraft is basically one of the easiest to fly of the big iron birds.One of the things you may have to learn is that it is NOT a Boeing and it is NOT an airbus.The thrust is automatically reduced under FMS control,and if you are following the flight plan,it will land itself.In some cases,speed can be reduced by lowering the gear.This is also an alert visual on the HSI.######in Betty will also advise to lower gear.This bird has or can have a higher landing speed than most heavies.Watch for the green rectangular box if the system is happy with the landing parameters.I would actually try the autoland procedure on this bird,before trying manual landings.This is my favourite heavy,and its too bad PMDG sales were not higher,because this really is one aircraft that is worth the price.Hope this helps.Ron Service Ron Service .
September 17, 201015 yr Author Normally,In preparation for descent and landing,DIAL A FLAP is set to 15,not flaps,also,the descent profile altitude is set to usually an altitude where the G/S can be captured.The FMS will alert to add drag (speed brakes),to reduce speed.The flap alerts on the HSI will be amber if your speed is too high.When the alerts turn green,then you can set the flaps to that position.This aircraft is basically one of the easiest to fly of the big iron birds.One of the things you may have to learn is that it is NOT a Boeing and it is NOT an airbus.The thrust is automatically reduced under FMS control,and if you are following the flight plan,it will land itself.In some cases,speed can be reduced by lowering the gear.This is also an alert visual on the HSI.######in Betty will also advise to lower gear.This bird has or can have a higher landing speed than most heavies.Watch for the green rectangular box if the system is happy with the landing parameters.I would actually try the autoland procedure on this bird,before trying manual landings.This is my favourite heavy,and its too bad PMDG sales were not higher,because this really is one aircraft that is worth the price.Hope this helps.Ron ServiceThanks,will try,play around and let you know.
September 17, 201015 yr This is my favourite heavy,and its too bad PMDG sales were not higher,because this really is one aircraft that is worth the price.Hope this helps.It helped me, I hadn't picked up on the flap speeds turning green when it was ok to drop 'em :( I agree this one is worth the price and I'd be happy to buy it again if PMDG would allow me to purchase the FSX version for the difference between the FS9 version I own and the combo pack ... but the combo price is only available at the time of initial purchase, so I'm afraid it's just one sale here :Sigh:Gary Gary Lowndes
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