Hi all.Can anyone confirm this...will a real Boeing 737-400 fully loaded climb effortlessly at 6000 fpm with N1 set at 86%?Well mine can...I have realism up to 100% and still it climbs life an F-15....does anyone know if there are any realistic FS2004 / FS9 flight dynamics files out yet?If so can I please get the link...all assistance greatly appreciated.daryl

Hello;Why would you like to climb at 6000 fm if the rate is 1800 fm. Read the POH for this aircraft, do what you are supposed to do.Thank you.

Well thanks for your input, your forthrightness is both refreshing and entertaining. It however, does little to solve the issue! so, if you are a compassionate, understanding, individual and wish to advance mankind, you should find something more constructive to do.I to would much rather climb out at 1800 fpm, but the fact still remains, the way this plane behaves in FS9 is rather ...hmm, whats the word?..WRONG!So Please excuse my humour!So as I was asking before, does anyone know if there are updated flight dynamic files available for the 737 in FS2004 yet?all assistance (and all comments)are greatly appreciated.daryl

>Can anyone confirm this...will a real Boeing 737-400 fully>loaded climb effortlessly at 6000 fpm with N1 set at 86%?>Only way I can get 6000fpm is a quick pull up, but speed bleeds quickly. So much for an effortless climb! In fact, I can't substain a 4000 fpm for long either...... at slightly below gross weight.L.Adamson

Hello Mr. Adamson;Don't tell him to "QUICK PULL UP" before explaining to him that an aircarft can and will stall at any speed if you don't watch your angle of attack.Thank you.

Guys, what gives? We used to help each other around here...Are we defending the default flight models now???I

Hello to all;Well you are correct Mr. Uwe we have to help each other even with the most absurd and illogical requirements and procedures. I have the reverse problem, when I climb, lets say, to 15000 AGL and push the joke forward the aircraft usually starts to go down pointing to the earth and after some time it will crash and make a big hole. Do you think I can get a patch to fix this and avoid smoke to come out from the hole. This software is call Flight SIMMULATOR, why, because we SIMMULATE the real life. We are supposed to fly this aircrafts as REAL as possible using all the procedures that apply to a real life environment and situations. Have to ever heard of any pilot anywhere that tried to climb a Boeing 737, full with persons, up at 6000 feet/min, this aircraft is not for aerobatics. I don't think that even the Concord could climb at this unreal speed. Why don't you tell him to use an F16 fighter tied to a space shuttle.Thank you.

The default jet aircraft in FS9 (and FS2002) are way over powered as well as way out in other parameters.There has been individuals that have uploaded corrected FDE files for the default aircraft on this site and the other site. Do a search on FDE and it might get you something.Obviously some of the posters on this site are "real" world pilots that know that climbing out at MTOW requires 1800fpm, N1 readings at 62%, and have to have autoland working know what they are talking about and my suggestion above will probably get me slammed.best regardsFraser

I think you misread the initial post. He doesn't *want* to climb at 6000 f/m, but the stock flight dynamics do allow this abnormal behavior, in his hands. What the original poster wants is a flight model that accurately models the real 737 - a simulation of it, if you will.

I am well aware of that :), thats why I suggested the FDE search. Its some of the others that have posted that slammed the poor lad that did the misreading, OR it was a deliberate slam so the individuals could hear themselves rant and just do not have anything better to do.My real world pilot comment was sarcasm....hey, maybe someone should make a sarcasm emoticon :).I can still remember the old days many eons ago where you could read through a forum and 95% of it was constuctive, and generally you would learn something. These days it seems it is the other way around. Folks are complaing because the pilots windscreen is 1" too large, or read a post like above and feel they have to slam the person because they do not understand what the message is implying, or ............ well I am sure the majority of you understand. Also it seems that alot of people no longer can write or speak something coherently unless there is implied cursing and swearing.oh well..... Fraser>I think you misread the initial post. He doesn't *want* to>climb at 6000 f/m, but the stock flight dynamics do allow this>abnormal behavior, in his hands. What the original poster>wants is a flight model that accurately models the real 737 ->a simulation of it, if you will.

Hello to all;IF SOMETHING IS WORTH DOING IS WORTH OF DOING WELL!I hope you fly the way you have to fly, and stay away from tree top.Thank you

>I think you misread the initial post. He doesn't *want* to>climb at 6000 f/m, but the stock flight dynamics do allow this>abnormal behavior, in his hands. What the original poster>wants is a flight model that accurately models the real 737 ->a simulation of it, if you will. Read the post again.........."effortlessly at 6000 fpm with N1 set at 86%"It won't climb like that, unless you pull the yoke back to get a quick vertical speed reading which bleeds off very quickly; which is quite different from effortlessly!I'm not pretending to say that the default's 737 dynamics are spot on, because I really don't care. What I don't like, are statements too "far" from reality..L.Adamson

Hello to all;IF SOMETHING IS WORTH DOING IS WORTH OF DOING WELL!I hope you fly the way you have to fly, and stay away from tree top.Thank you

Actually, I have seen this on FS9 flying the 737, and so have alot of others..sssooooooo.....That means that alot of us are too far from reality...........Interesting concept.........What is normal reality?????Fraser>>I think you misread the initial post. He doesn't *want* to>>climb at 6000 f/m, but the stock flight dynamics do allow>this>>abnormal behavior, in his hands. What the original poster>>wants is a flight model that accurately models the real 737>->>a simulation of it, if you will. >>Read the post again..........>>"effortlessly at 6000 fpm with N1 set at 86%">>It won't climb like that, unless you pull the yoke back to get>a quick vertical speed reading which bleeds off very quickly;>which is quite different from effortlessly!>>I'm not pretending to say that the default's 737 dynamics are>spot on, because I really don't care. What I don't like, are>statements too "far" from reality..>>L.Adamson

Hello Mr. Adamson;You could be right about what you said you have also discovered in one of the FS9 aircraft while you were "flying" it. You will also find out that if you try to use it under water it will not behave like a submarine. But maybe if you had used this aircraft the way you were supposed to you may have never found this strange behavior, and maybe what you found was not an aircraft fault, but a lack of knowledge and procedures of the person at this aircraft controls.Thank you for your time.