Hello pro's,After some hard saving ang someone buying my old rig i have decided to build a new rig and i wondered what you guys think. My calculations have come to £1600 which is my absolute max and i plan to order the parts next friday. Im no pro myself so with alot of reviewing, mainly from overclock3d on you tube this is what i've come up with. Please feel free to give your advise as that is why i am posting the specs here. Can i add that this rig will be built with FSX in mind although i will be using it for other games. Here goes:Core i7 2600kGe-force gtx 5806gb kingston ddr3 2000 mhzAsus p8p67 pro-------- but advise needed hereCoolermaster silent pro gold 1000wLite on blu-ray playerLite on dvd+rwWD veleciraptor 10.000 rpm 450 gbSamsung 24" lcdPhantom full towerSo what do you guys think? am i in the right direction here? I would like to see what you have to say on the build, if i should change anything but bare in mind i cannot go over my budget or my other half will string me up!!Thanks for reading

Hello pro's,After some hard saving ang someone buying my old rig i have decided to build a new rig and i wondered what you guys think. My calculations have come to £1600 which is my absolute max and i plan to order the parts next friday. Im no pro myself so with alot of reviewing, mainly from overclock3d on you tube this is what i've come up with. Please feel free to give your advise as that is why i am posting the specs here. Can i add that this rig will be built with FSX in mind although i will be using it for other games. Here goes:Core i7 2600kGe-force gtx 5806gb kingston ddr3 2000 mhzAsus p8p67 pro-------- but advise needed hereCoolermaster silent pro gold 1000wLite on blu-ray playerLite on dvd+rwWD veleciraptor 10.000 rpm 450 gbSamsung 24" lcdPhantom full towerSo what do you guys think? am i in the right direction here? I would like to see what you have to say on the build, if i should change anything but bare in mind i cannot go over my budget or my other half will string me up!!Thanks for reading

You don't need a 1000W PSU...something in the 750-800W range is plenty with a single GPU and a 32nm CPU. That should knock a few quid off the tally.Make sure you get 1.5v DRAM...that said, I do not know of any low-latency 2000 MHz DDR3 that runs at ~1.5v. I'd go with 1600MHz at CAS 6 or 7 instead. The memory bandwidth is better than CAS 9 or 10 2000 MHz stuff, and it'll put less stress on the IMC as well.Don't forget to budget for an operating system.RegardsBob ScottColonel, USAF (ret)ATP IMEL Gulfstream II-III-IV-VColorado Springs, CO

Remember, SB's are dual channel ram, so make sure thats 6GB in dual channel, not triple. As Bob said, 1000W is overkill. The 800W version of that PSU is more than enough. A blu-ray player isnt really needed, unless you plan on watching a bunch of blu-ray movies. Instead of 1 450GB VRap, why not get a 150GB Vrap for FSX and a 300GB Vrap for OS/Data? Dont forget your aftermarket cooler for OCing that bad boy!

Thats very good advise guys, thanks. I will look into a dedicated hdd for fsx i have heard of its benafits and also the 800w psu, as you said it will knock off a few quid! As for os, a certain site gives 10% discount on 7 64 but would i be right in going for oem? not sure about this. Ram @ 1600 mhz i have also just seen has benafits over 2000 as they overclock better, not sure if i will o/c the ram but i will go for 1600. Just out of curiosity, is the motherboard up to the job? and with the i7 turbo mode on how do you think fsx will perform? I have seen this cpu o/c to 5ghz on air and stable but what do you think about its stock performance?Thanks for your input on this, im getting very excited now!

Currently there isn't any SB out there past 4.8GHz that's lasted more than a few days. It's fatal flaw is it's inability to be BCLK OCd and the low (compared to X58) voltage maximum. Yes that mobo is definitely up to the job. It was made for it? Why wouldn't it be? Lol. It's hard to say with turbo mode, but if you turn that off and OC it, FSX will run great! OEM OS's are fine.

Well thanks for your input mate, i have re-calculated with the points suggested apart from the 300gb velorap, i priced up a 500gb caviar blue WD and at £30.00 i have saved £58.00 in totall, just enough to get the missus a bunch of flowers . Thats me done now, just got to wait for next friday to come around

I wouldve recommended a Caviar black 640Gb with a 64mb cache. They are mega quick drives.

I wouldve recommended a Caviar black 640Gb with a 64mb cache. They are mega quick drives.

O.K i will have a look at this, no point cutting corners

O.K i will have a look at this, no point cutting corners

Chris caught something important that has me puzzled...6GB of dual channel RAM?? I've never seen 3GB DIMMs before (which doesn't mean they don't exist)...but if that's 2x2GB and 2x1GB I wouldn't go there. I think 2x2GB of good quality fast RAM would be a better choice in that case.The problem with an OEM version of Windows is that it is forever tied to your mobo. If it fails a year from now and you can't replace it with another just like it, your license for Windows won't transfer to the new one. They are intended for builders that keep an inventory of spares--if you had a Dell PC and the mobo died, they'd replace it with one from their spare stock.The 64mb versions of the WD Caviar Black are nearly as fast as the 10,000 RPM drives due to the platter configuration and cache. I'd consider the 1TB or 2TB version, though.And to reiterate, the CAS latency of the RAM you buy is just as important as the bus frequency. 1600 MHz RAM at CAS 6 or 7 is actually faster than 2000 MHz CAS 9...but if you let somebody sell you some skunky 1600MHz CAS 8 or 9 RAM, you've taken a step backwards there.RegardsBob ScottColonel, USAF (ret)ATP IMEL Gulfstream II-III-IV-VColorado Springs, CO

Chris caught something important that has me puzzled...6GB of dual channel RAM?? I've never senn 3GB DIMMs before (which doesn't mean they don't exist)...but if that's 2x2GB and 2x1GB I wouldn't go there. I think 2x2GB of good quality fast RAM would be a better choice in that case.The problem with an OEM version of Windows is that it is forever tied to your mobo. If it fails a year from now and you can't replace it with another just like it, your license for Windows won't transfer to the new one. They are intended for builders that keep an inventory of spares--if you had a Dell PC and the mobo died, they'd replace it with one from their spare stock.The 64mb versions of the WD Caviar Black are nearly as fast as the 10,000 RPM drives due to the platter configuration and cache. I'd consider the 1TB or 2TB version, though.And to reiterate, the CAS latency of the RAM you buy is just as important as the bus frequency. 1600 MHz RAM at CAS 6 or 7 is actually faster than 2000 MHz CAS 9...but if you let somebody sell you some skunky 1600MHz CAS 8 or 9 RAM, you've taken a step backwards there.RegardsBob ScottColonel, USAF (ret)ATP IMEL Gulfstream II-III-IV-VColorado Springs, CO

Bob, and all the rest sorry for the OT.Being you the most knowledgeable member I know in AVSIM, what do you think about this please?

Chris caught something important that has me puzzled...6GB of dual channel RAM?? I've never seen 3GB DIMMs before (which doesn't mean they don't exist)...but if that's 2x2GB and 2x1GB I wouldn't go there. I think 2x2GB of good quality fast RAM would be a better choice in that case.The problem with an OEM version of Windows is that it is forever tied to your mobo. If it fails a year from now and you can't replace it with another just like it, your license for Windows won't transfer to the new one. They are intended for builders that keep an inventory of spares--if you had a Dell PC and the mobo died, they'd replace it with one from their spare stock.The 64mb versions of the WD Caviar Black are nearly as fast as the 10,000 RPM drives due to the platter configuration and cache. I'd consider the 1TB or 2TB version, though.And to reiterate, the CAS latency of the RAM you buy is just as important as the bus frequency. 1600 MHz RAM at CAS 6 or 7 is actually faster than 2000 MHz CAS 9...but if you let somebody sell you some skunky 1600MHz CAS 8 or 9 RAM, you've taken a step backwards there.RegardsBob ScottColonel, USAF (ret)ATP IMEL Gulfstream II-III-IV-VColorado Springs, CO

Good morning Bob, Again thanks for your help on this but i have a question. I have changed the ram from what i posted origanally to 8gb of corsair vengeance in dual channel, in your oppinion is this a wise move? as for the cas that you mention im not sure where to find this info out, here is the description:TypeDRAMTechnologyDDR3 SDRAMForm FactorDIMM 240-pinMemory Speed1600 MHz ( PC3-12800 )Latency TimingsCL9 ( 9-9-9-24 )Data Integrity CheckNon-ECCRAM FeaturesIntel Extreme Memory Profiles (XMP), dual channel, Vengeance heatspreader , unbufferedSupply Voltage1.5 V8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 for AMD, Intel Dual processors and upcoming 2nd Generation Intel Core platforms1600MHz9-9-9-24 latencyVengeance heat spreader for styling and performanceIntel XMP (Extreme Memory Profile) SupportLimited Lifetime WarrantyFormat: DIMMPin Out: 240 PinVoltage: 1.5V Could you please advise me if im on the right track here.Thanks for your timeI noticed in the description it said for amd, intel dual processors

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Chris;CL9 means CAS level 9. That's slow, consumer grade RAM, fitting for grandma browsing quilt patterns on her dial-up connection, but not for a gaming system clocked up to 4.7GHz packing the fastest GPU currently made. Personally, I'd rather go with 4GB of good quality 1600 @ CAS 6 than 8 GB of skunky CAS 9. Having all four DIMM slots populated will slow the memory system down some more, too, so 2x2GB fast modules would be optimum IMHO.If this is a dedicated FS machine, 4GB is generally enough. You can always add 4 GB later if you decide to. RegardsBob ScottColonel, USAF (ret)ATP IMEL Gulfstream II-III-IV-VColorado Springs, CO

Bobs right this late in the game no one should be forced to buy CAS 9 1600mhz.. I'm sure you can find faster for the same price.

Bob, Veeray, could you please recommend me some specific RAM, or a link to it as i need to update my specs now and also would 4gb be enough for running ASE RC4, basicly is it enough to run these other apps alongside FSX?Thanks guys

O.K guys i had a little look about and found these....Mushkin radioactive ddr3 4gb @1600 mhz cas 6-8-6-24. Any good?