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Turbulence while landing

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I usually get clearance for landing (by RC) right after some other plane has landed or taken off. This causes lots of turbulence and sometimes I haven't been able to avoid crash. This is irritating after a 2 hours flight. I use MyTraffic X. Anyone else having this issue?Thanks in advance!

Antonio H.

 

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I usually get clearance for landing (by RC) right after some other plane has landed or taken off. This causes lots of turbulence and sometimes I haven't been able to avoid crash. This is irritating after a 2 hours flight. I use MyTraffic X. Anyone else having this issue?Thanks in advance!
Sounds like you have a weather settings issue. RC has nothing to do whith weather settings. You need to check wake turbulence settings in whatever weather addon you are using. But you don't mention your set up ?More information in = more information out

RC4 does not space out for turbulence. If you have a TCAS slow down on your approach to add separation on arrival. If you have a heavy take off in front of you don't ack right away the take off clearance but then use your TCAS to insure AI are not landing after your pause. You might also here them on your tower frequency.Active Sky is one weather application that generates wake turbulence but many find it too lasting and too high. On arrival if the traffic is dense and you have a suitable parallel runway request the other runway from approach if you wish. Use your TCAS or ATIS to see what runway aircraft are landing on. You can use the freeware add-on AISmooth version 1.2 in the FSX Utility section here (works on FS9 too) to space out arrival AI to reduce landing congestion.

You mentioned once that RC5 has the "caution wake turbulence" advisory. Would it be possible to make v5 apply the proper time-based separation on takeoff (e.g. have you wait the correct amount of minutes) by ticking an "Apply wake separation on departure" type checkbox in the interface to cater for programs that simulate wake turbulence? You would just need to query user aircraft type vs. departing AI type and decide on the delay per FAA/ICAO regs as approppriate...

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I have tried to reproduce the problem several times by landing at busy airports, but it seems like tower controllers have read this post since no planes are landing before me any more hehe. I will need to try some more...

Antonio H.

 

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That has been discussed among the RC5 beta testers including ATC folks. I don't recall if it has been coded yet. It would also apply to take-off as well as landing.The real world technique for take-off is to lift-off before the place the previous aircraft lifted off. For landing you touch down after the point where the previous aircraft touched down. In all cases, runway length must be sufficient. While light aircraft might take advantage of this since they use less runway, most airliners would wait for vortex dispersal. The stronger a crosswind component, the quicker displacement off of the runway for the left and right wing vortexes.We have also discussed creating a "super" in addition to "heavy" class in recognition of the A380 and B787 types. We know in FS AI heavy is doable but not super.It can get complex comparing user aircraft class to AI class to pick the wake interaction and effect on the use aircraft following. You also have to insure arriving aircraft separation do not cause a problem when the user aircraft is allowed to hold on the runway whilw waiting for vortex dispersion.As an aside, when doing figure-8 maneuvers in private pilot training one factor was if you held altitude correctly you might feel a slight bump crossing your own vortex in a slightly heavier GA aircraft like a Beech Bonanza.

I also use ASE and in the options settings at first I had wake turbulence check very low to reduce the bumps on landing and TO. Ron suggested in his post to watch if you TCAS how far you are behind an aircraft landing in front of you or wait if a heavy is taking off before you. Now being a "purist" :( I went back in ASE and reset the wake turbulence setting to 100% just for the reason I just mentioned, cause that is how ATC does it in the real world. It is true that in the real world Tower will advice you about turbulence when a heavy is landing or taking off. If you are landing or taking off with a GA you can expect to be really bumped around when you have a heavy in front.Bob

 

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