Check this out....http://www.techpowerup.com/143179/Intel-X79-Enthusiast-Chipset-Sketched-in-Roadmap.html

Check this out....http://www.techpowerup.com/143179/Intel-X79-Enthusiast-Chipset-Sketched-in-Roadmap.html

I haven't even received my SB parts and my build is already obsolete LOL!Oh, such is the way of technology.... :P

I haven't even received my SB parts and my build is already obsolete LOL!Oh, such is the way of technology.... :P

Hagnagnahah, I know thing are going so fast.....read this here, 4 and 6 core only ( my feeling is that we will see an 8 core) and quad chanel DDR3 memory with speed up to 2666MHz eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeehttp://vr-zone.com/a...aked/11762.html

Excellent! I want one!Downside: Still PCIe v. 2.x (3.0, available since Nov 2010, is 2x the BW at same clock). There are no 3.0 video cards either, at this point, so one keeps hoping, but 2x the BW is 2x the BW...Cheers,- jahman.

Excellent! I want one!Downside: Still PCIe v. 2.x (3.0, available since Nov 2010, is 2x the BW at same clock). There are no 3.0 video cards either, at this point, so one keeps hoping, but 2x the BW is 2x the BW...Cheers,- jahman.

Yeah, that's something that keeps me scratching my head, when they release CPU's with PCIe 3.0 controllers, will those work on x68, (x79 or whatever) boards or will a new chipset be necessary? maybe they'll just work at 2.0 speeds? I'm not sure if there's anything in the motherboard at this point that could hold back the PCIe speed or not. Anybody has any idea how that works?

Yeah, that's something that keeps me scratching my head, when they release CPU's with PCIe 3.0 controllers, will those work on x68, (x79 or whatever) boards or will a new chipset be necessary? maybe they'll just work at 2.0 speeds? I'm not sure if there's anything in the motherboard at this point that could hold back the PCIe speed or not. Anybody has any idea how that works?

PCIe v. 3.0 will be backwards-compatible with 2.x, but ideally one should by both a 3.0 video card and MB at the same time: Otherwise you pay for a hardware feature you don't use, so you are best deferring the purchase since hardware prices depreciate at 5%/yr IIRC anyway.Cheers,- jahman.

PCIe v. 3.0 will be backwards-compatible with 2.x, but ideally one should by both a 3.0 video card and MB at the same time: Otherwise you pay for a hardware feature you don't use, so you are best deferring the purchase since hardware prices depreciate at 5%/yr IIRC anyway.Cheers,- jahman.

I know, PCIe 3.0 is backwards compatible, but my question is, is there such a thing as PCIe 2.0 or 3.0 motherboards now the controller is in the CPU as opposed to X58 - LGA1366's northbridge? I mean, early LGA2011 adopters will get X79 boards... will they be stuck with PCIe 2.0 speeds when new Ivy Bridge PCIe 3.0 ready CPU's are released? or much worse, will a new mobo with a new chipset or PCI lanes or whatever be needed for IB?If there's nothing in those X79 boards keeping them from running PCIe 3.0 CPU's on them, does that mean that theoretically there could be PCIe 3.0 chips for P67 too? I don't think Intel will release CPU's with PCIe 3.0 controllers for their mainstream platform for quite some time, but I'm curious as to how all this stuff works

Apologies, I misunderstood. Indeed, the CPU must support PCIe v. 3.0. The X79 PCIe port also only supports v. 2.0, according to the OP's link, and I have no idea if a future chip could use v. 3.0 to interface with a 3.0 video card if the CPU only supports 2.0.My intuition says this will not be possible because v. 3.0 uses polynomial encoding to increase BW and this would seem to require circuitry possibly beyond the capabilityies of a chipset chip, requiring instead the speed of a CPU on one end and the GPU on the other (with the chipset in a passive pass-through mode for any extra PCIe ports it might sport). But this is only a guess.So likely current SBers are stuck with 2.0, which is why I'm waiting for Flight to see how it runs on my current outdated setup and if I am satisfied, then do a complete gaming PC overhaul at that time, with 3.0 and cheaper prices anyway. Flight might well require 3.0 for full sliders to the right secenery rending, seeing that scenery is a PCIe hog, as described by Phil Taylor in his blog), and that likely the whole simgine won't be re-written (was it ever?), but that's just me.Cheers,- jahman.

Apologies, I misunderstood. Indeed, the CPU must support PCIe v. 3.0. The X79 PCIe port also only supports v. 2.0, according to the OP's link, and I have no idea if a future chip could use v. 3.0 to interface with a 3.0 video card if the CPU only supports 2.0.My intuition says this will not be possible because v. 3.0 uses polynomial encoding to increase BW and this would seem to require circuitry possibly beyond the capabilityies of a chipset chip, requiring instead the speed of a CPU on one end and the GPU on the other (with the chipset in a passive pass-through mode for any extra PCIe ports it might sport). But this is only a guess.So likely current SBers are stuck with 2.0, which is why I'm waiting for Flight to see how it runs on my current outdated setup and if I am satisfied, then do a complete gaming PC overhaul at that time, with 3.0 and cheaper prices anyway (Flight might well require 3.0 for full sliders to the right secenery rending, seeing that scenery is a PCIe hog, as described by Phil Taylor in his blog), and that likely the whole simgine won't be re-written (was it ever?), but that's just me.Cheers,- jahman.

Interesting. It's all so confusing. I guess X79 will support IB at 2.0 speeds.What I fail to see is where that PCIe bottleneck affects in FSX. I recently tested my new board (8x8x capable) with two GPU's, and FSX running on one of them (no SLI) so 8x for half the 2.0 BW, and performance hit was only a 10% with maxed sliders, including AG

Exactly the board I'm saving for now. :Drooling: I will be saving lunch money, gas money, and the girlfriend's date money for this platform! :Nerd: This thing is going to be incredibly efficient...

Exactly the board I'm saving for now. :Drooling: I will be saving lunch money, gas money, and the girlfriend's date money for this platform! :Nerd:

I'm also thinking about this platform and I don't need to save the money for it.....about if I take your girlfriend out......:Big Grin:

...What I fail to see is where that PCIe bottleneck affects in FSX....

Check PTs article: bytes/tree x trees/tile x tiles/frame x frames/second > BW of PCIe 2.x @ 16 lanes. Is that your question?Cheers,- jahman.

Check PTs article: bytes/tree x trees/tile x tiles/frame x frames/second > BW of PCIe 2.x @ 16 lanes. Is that your question?Cheers,- jahman.

The math is easy. It just doesn't seem to translate into the expected performance hit. I don't know, may well be missing something so we'll have to wait and see how it goes when it's released. I'll be waiting for your reports guys, because you know I don't think LGA2011 or PCIe 3.0 is going to change anything, but if time proves me wrong, no doubt that I'll jump on the bandwagon right away hehe