J41 is not so hard to learning without failures system. Because like Pilot Heat or TAT Probe will not get failures so ADS still need?

Then again, my other favorites are the ones where they tout "well, I'm also a pilot in the real world." Yeah? Nice. What license/rating? Student? Wow. So that makes you more qualified to teach me about a 747? Okay! Granted, the kid probably knows more than the average simmer, but still, I'd rather hear that you're a 747 enthusiast and bury your head in the manuals all day than hear the over-used "RW Pilot" credential.

Well some of us are RW pilots...myself only a PPL...but also an AME apprentice...So while my flying experience with types is pretty limited, I'm fortunate enough to have dabbled with a couple types of a/c...I totally understand what you're saying, but just be careful because the pilot is only one part of an equation representing a functioning aircraft (insert pilot vs. AME rant here). There's lots of people around here with great direct knowledge either as a rampie, atc guy, dispatcher, other aviation job, etc, etc. Some of those jobs entail looking at books the pilot didn't even know existed...so you know what I'm trying to say here...hahaI like to give people the benefit of the doubt. Most people aren't comfortable BS'in unless they know something about what they are talking about...hahaSo in my case I have to keep my mind open and learn some things that I hope can be beneficial to myself (as an apprentice) and those interested in aviation...even though it ain't from no POH or type course...;)Ask a King Air driver how to set prime blade angle on a PT6, what the Py line does, the function of a fuel topping gov (and what variants feature a separate unit), and you'll get some pretty blank stares from some pilots out there...haha/end minor thread hijack

I totally understand what you're saying, but just be careful because the pilot is only one part of an equation representing a functioning aircraft (insert pilot vs. AME rant here). There's lots of people around here with great direct knowledge either as a rampie, atc guy, dispatcher, other aviation job, etc, etc. Some of those jobs entail looking at books the pilot didn't even know existed...so you know what I'm trying to say here...hahaI like to give people the benefit of the doubt. Most people aren't comfortable BS'in unless they know something about what they are talking about...haha

The reasons you mentioned above are likely why I don't give people so much benefit of the doubt of when they pull the pilot card. I bolded the jobs that I've either had, or had training in, to some degree. Having been around aviation so much, it's slowly made me more skeptical of what people actually know and how much they put off they know. Don't get me wrong, each side of aviation has books that would make some of my old university textbooks look elementary, so to know everything about aviation (or even one side of it, be it flying, fixing, controlling, or otherwise) is nearly impossible.Really, my point had more to do with the internet group than the real world group. Face to face, when I've had a discussion about a topic with someone, in general, they're very aware of what they do and do not know. Also, face to face, I can generally very clearly tell you're a pilot (mechanic, ATCer) or not. On the internet, however, I have no clue whether you are, are not, or are but haven't paid attention to your instructor, the FARs, and so on.Have you seen the trash on YouTube, though? The other part is that just about every person who files "RW Pilot" in the flight plan on VATSIM is complete rubbish when it comes to flying (I'm guessing mostly because they're just student pilots, or even private pilots who haven't really been introduced to anything much more than a tower).I'm not saying I'm perfect either, but I try to avoid dropping cards of any sort. I don't like that game. It's probably a projection from my teaching job, where the students who drop how long they've used X program tend to actually be the worst at it, but hey, I'll give you a shot to prove me wrong. I guess it just bothers me that people tout their credentials as "I know more than you," instead of "I likely have a better idea of what's going on, but I'm always learning."

I guess it just bothers me that people tout their credentials as "I know more than you," instead of "I likely have a better idea of what's going on, but I'm always learning."

That sums it up great. Ya your right. I to try to avoid dropping titles/names etc...for some reason I thought your post was sorta directed at me. Not really sure why I thought that...it was late last night hahaI've always found a little humility always pays off.You're right about the real world vs. internet discussions. The people you discuss things with are typically those you have a good idea of what they know and what you know. Totally different on here.The whole benefit of the doubt thing is just something I can't really get over. I always gotta hand out cred to those who can offer some sort of knowledge from even the lowly rampie guy. Yesturday I asked a CRJ pilot where the external pnuematic connection was to try out a new coupling...all I got was a raised eye-brow and a "...hmm...that's a good question" look. Brilliant! (RJ's are new to my work and a quick walk-around solved it!)My worry is although someone may appear as brash and cocky when it comes to something, I'm wary of alienating their knowledge just because they haven't got quite the social skills all developed yet.Even those student pilots can probably remember some more ambiguous CAR's (Canadian Air Regs...i'm up in Canada hence the 'AME' vs. 'A&P' thing) ie: minimum altitude when crossing a moose/cariboo/elk farm...what markings denote these farms from the air...haha...ask an ol' crusty airline jock and they would at least know where to look for the reg I suppose.I've been in the industry through family/friends for a long time...and I always thought it wise to keep good relations with all the different groups in aviation..;) I'm sure with more time I'll start to recognize who and what to really pay attention to but hey, I think we got the right idea here.

...for some reason I thought your post was sorta directed at me. Not really sure why I thought that...it was late last night haha[...] Yesturday I asked a CRJ pilot where the external pnuematic connection was to try out a new coupling...all I got was a raised eye-brow and a "...hmm...that's a good question" look. Brilliant! (RJ's are new to my work and a quick walk-around solved it!)[...]I've been in the industry through family/friends for a long time...and I always thought it wise to keep good relations with all the different groups in aviation..;) I'm sure with more time I'll start to recognize who and what to really pay attention to but hey, I think we got the right idea here.

Nope! Not at all. I didn't direct it at anyone specifically. Just as we both mentioned, it was aimed more at those blankly dropping titles than anything.I miss the RJ. Used to work with them all the time when I was with Independence Air (rampie / brake rider). Not having touched one in quite some time, the panel is a rectangular panel on the under the bag door under the #1, right? I definitely remember it being by the engines, though, because I was always somewhat bothered by the fact that I had to go back near a running engine to disconnect the cart (not that it would pick up much at idle - though I did see one grab a hat once).Definitely. I didn't mean to say I discredit people's position immediately. Having been a rampie, I caught the wrong end of that way too many times:[After pushing back]'Hey, you're leaking hydraulic from the main gear.'"Nah, that's probably just glycol."'Definitely looks and feels like hydraulic, but it's not much. Definitely check it out when you get down to the outstation.'Sure enough, when they came back, they brought the plane back to the hangar to fix whatever caused the leak. I can see why they didn't listen initially, though, as most rampies could care less what happens to the planes, or how they work - it's just a job to pay the bills.I just don't like it when "well I'm a [fill in blank] with [number] of years experience" is used as a dismissal of everyone else's opinion, or the end all for their own. As I always say: I played baseball for 10 years. By your metric, I'd be pro right now. It's the quality of those years that counts.