June 4, 201115 yr Hello,I'm seeing some extra taxiway signs that are black and blank along with regular taxiway signs. You can see them in the attached pic. Does anyone have the same problem? What did you do to get rid of these black signs?I'm running Win7 64bit, FSX SP2, All UTX packages, GEX NA and Europe, and FEX. Fulcrum One Yoke / FSProjects Airbus Side Stick, Honeycomb Bravo, Slaw Device RX Viper V2 Intel Core Ultra 9 285K, PNY RTX 5080, 48GB RAM
June 4, 201115 yr Moderator The first questions I would ask is:Have they been like that since you installed FSX?and if the asnswer is that they used to be fine but now aren't, then I would ask:What have you installed lately or done differently since they turned black?It looks to me like its just some textures that are missing. Is it like that at all airports or just one?Do this. Go into your FSX root folder and look in the Texture folder and see if you have a file called aptsign.bmp. That's the texture file responsible for displaying the numbers/letters on the taxiway signs.If it's missing you could run a repair at your own risk, or you could do what I would do and install FSX on another computer but dont activate it and pull the texture file you need from that install and replace it with the one that is missing in your live FSX install.The reason I said running the repair at your own risk is because depending on how many addons and things you have installed in FSX you could take the chance at corrupting something. Personally, as much as I have isntalled in FSX, I would never run a repair. In fact, once I needed a file that I forgot to back up so I just installed FSX on another computer and got the files from it. I actually left it installed on the other rig in case I ever need to pull something from it in the future. Avsim Board of Directors | Avsim Forums Moderator
June 4, 201115 yr Author These are some good suggestions. I tested some airports in and out of the ranges of UTX and GEX and found that the problem only occurs when UTX and/or GEX are present. Some taxiways signs are grey with no markings on them. I also checked and the aptsign.bmp file is indeed in my Textures folder. Can I use one of your fix suggestions to repair the signs?Thanks again! The first questions I would ask is:Have they been like that since you installed FSX?and if the asnswer is that they used to be fine but now aren't, then I would ask:What have you installed lately or done differently since they turned black?It looks to me like its just some textures that are missing. Is it like that at all airports or just one?Do this. Go into your FSX root folder and look in the Texture folder and see if you have a file called aptsign.bmp. That's the texture file responsible for displaying the numbers/letters on the taxiway signs.If it's missing you could run a repair at your own risk, or you could do what I would do and install FSX on another computer but dont activate it and pull the texture file you need from that install and replace it with the one that is missing in your live FSX install.The reason I said running the repair at your own risk is because depending on how many addons and things you have installed in FSX you could take the chance at corrupting something. Personally, as much as I have isntalled in FSX, I would never run a repair. In fact, once I needed a file that I forgot to back up so I just installed FSX on another computer and got the files from it. I actually left it installed on the other rig in case I ever need to pull something from it in the future. Fulcrum One Yoke / FSProjects Airbus Side Stick, Honeycomb Bravo, Slaw Device RX Viper V2 Intel Core Ultra 9 285K, PNY RTX 5080, 48GB RAM
June 4, 201115 yr Moderator These are some good suggestions. I tested some airports in and out of the ranges of UTX and GEX and found that the problem only occurs when UTX and/or GEX are present. Some taxiways signs are grey with no markings on them. I also checked and the aptsign.bmp file is indeed in my Textures folder. Can I use one of your fix suggestions to repair the signs?Thanks again!That's weird because GEX doesn't touch those textures or have anything to do with taxiway way signs, especially if your aptsign.bmp is still intact.The only thing I could think of is that somehow something went wrong with UTX, but still I dont see how it could effect taxiway signs displaying their textures.To rule out UTX try opening the UTX UI and Ultimate Terrain tab at the top of the UI and hit the Quick Ultimate Terrain Enable/Disable button to disable it, then open FSX again and see if its the same. If the taxiway signs are now working, then I would go back into the UTX UI re-enable UTX then press CTRL-SHIFT-R all at the same time. That will check for and delete any duplicate files that shouldn't be their. If you press it and it pickups up some and fixes them, leave UTX enabled and open FSX again and see if the signs are working.If they're still not working then it could possibly be a layering problem with the way and order you have UTX in your working scenery.cfg. The reason I emphasize working is because depending on what version of Windows you are running you will have either 2 scenery.cfg's Win7 or 3 scenery.cfg's Win XP and out of all these scenery.cfg's, only one of them is the one that FSX is actually using for your scenery layers.Try these suggestions and report back. If none of them work and they're still messed up, post a copy of the working scenery.cfg so we can have a look at it and check the layering. I have never heard of UTX messing with taxiway signs but then again weirder things have happened with FSX and addons, so you can never rule anything out.BTW, are you testing airports that you are using any modified ADE files at, or are they all stock, untouched airports. Also are you running REX and or any utulity that lets you update or change your taxiway sign textures? Avsim Board of Directors | Avsim Forums Moderator
June 4, 201115 yr Author Thanks again for the great suggestions! I followed your instructions and disabled UTX USA but I still see those black signs. Also, I haven't installed any addon airports or runway texture upgrades. Other than UTX and GEX, the only other texture-related thing I'm running is FEX, which doesn't change airports AFAIK.This is a really strange problem.Edit: here's my working scenery.cfg (I forgot to restart FSX after I enabled UTX USA)[General]Title=FS9 World SceneryDescription=FS9 Scenery DataClean_on_Exit=TRUE[Area.001]Title=Default TerrainTexture_ID=1Local=Scenery\WorldLayer=1Active=TRUERequired=TRUE[Area.002]Title=Default SceneryLocal=Scenery\BASELayer=2Active=TRUERequired=TRUE[Area.003]Title=0000 BaseLocal=Scenery\0000Layer=3Active=TRUERequired=FALSE[Area.004]Title=0001 BaseLocal=Scenery\0001Layer=4Active=TRUERequired=FALSE[Area.005]Title=0002 BaseLocal=Scenery\0002Layer=5Active=TRUERequired=FALSE[Area.006]Title=0003 BaseLocal=Scenery\0003Layer=6Active=TRUERequired=FALSE[Area.007]Title=0004 BaseLocal=Scenery\0004Layer=7Active=TRUERequired=FALSE[Area.008]Title=0005 BaseLocal=Scenery\0005Layer=8Active=TRUERequired=TRUE[Area.009]Title=0006 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Honeycomb Bravo, Slaw Device RX Viper V2 Intel Core Ultra 9 285K, PNY RTX 5080, 48GB RAM
June 4, 201115 yr Moderator That's not your working scenery.cfg becuase there are no UTX entries in it. Pull the other one and post it.Post Edit:I think the correct one you need if your running Win7 is located at:C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\FSXProgramData is a "hidden" folder so you will need to unhide it.Post Edit 2:If you disabled UTX in the UI and its still doing it, then it's really hard to say. I would still be interested to see the correct scenery.cfg, but it looks like there maybe more to the probelm than meets the eye.Something else you can try.Add to you fsx.cfg the following line under the [scenery] section. So it looks like below, but dont delete any of the other entries in that section. Dont add [scenery] just place the text I put.[scenery]ShowMissingTextureAlert=0Then go back to one of those airports and see if you get an alert for the texture missing from the taxiway signs. Avsim Board of Directors | Avsim Forums Moderator
June 4, 201115 yr Author Sorry about that. I forgot to restart FSX after I enabled UTX USA. The scenery.cfg file is updated to the current one on my previous post. BTW, the blank signs are now grey istead of black. Fulcrum One Yoke / FSProjects Airbus Side Stick, Honeycomb Bravo, Slaw Device RX Viper V2 Intel Core Ultra 9 285K, PNY RTX 5080, 48GB RAM
June 4, 201115 yr Moderator Sorry about that. I forgot to restart FSX after I enabled UTX USA. The scenery.cfg file is updated to the current one on my previous post. BTW, the blank signs are now grey istead of black.Yeah, I still need to see the correct scenery.cfg with the UTX entries in it. Even when you disable UTX the UTX entries still remain in the scenery.cfg (thats how I now you posted the wrong one), but instead of saying true they say false. Find the correct cfg and post it.Also did you read my two post edits and did you try hitting CTRL-SHIFT-R in the UTX UI? Avsim Board of Directors | Avsim Forums Moderator
June 4, 201115 yr Moderator Sorry, I forgot to ask you if you are using DX10 Preview or just regular DX9 mode. If your using DX10 preview mode, uncheck it in the FSX UI and see if that makes a difference. Avsim Board of Directors | Avsim Forums Moderator
June 4, 201115 yr Author I tried CTRL+SHIFT+R and it found 2 duplicate textures but the blank signs are still showing (now black). I'm supposed to copy the scenery.cfg in the main FSX folder right? Thanks again for your help!Edit: I'm running DX9 with AF on and AA off.Edit 2: I added ShowMissingTextureAlert=0 to FSX.cfg but FSX didn't give me any error messages and the blank signs are still there.Edit 3: Oh I misread the direction to the real scenery.cfg. Sorry about that and here it is:[General]Title=FS9 World SceneryDescription=FS9 Scenery DataClean_on_Exit=TRUE[Area.001]Title=Default TerrainTexture_ID=1Local=Scenery\WorldLayer=1Active=TRUERequired=TRUE[Area.002]Title=Default SceneryLocal=Scenery\BASELayer=2Active=TRUERequired=TRUE[Area.003]Title=0000 BaseLocal=Scenery\0000Layer=3Active=TRUERequired=FALSE[Area.004]Title=0001 BaseLocal=Scenery\0001Layer=4Active=TRUERequired=FALSE[Area.005]Title=0002 BaseLocal=Scenery\0002Layer=5Active=TRUERequired=FALSE[Area.006]Title=0003 BaseLocal=Scenery\0003Layer=6Active=TRUERequired=FALSE[Area.007]Title=0004 BaseLocal=Scenery\0004Layer=7Active=TRUERequired=FALSE[Area.008]Title=0005 BaseLocal=Scenery\0005Layer=8Active=TRUERequired=TRUE[Area.009]Title=0006 BaseLocal=Scenery\0006Layer=9Active=TRUERequired=FALSE[Area.010]Title=0007 BaseLocal=Scenery\0007Layer=10Active=TRUERequired=FALSE[Area.011]Title=0100 BaseLocal=Scenery\0100Layer=11Active=TRUERequired=FALSE[Area.012]Title=0101 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48GB RAM
June 4, 201115 yr Moderator I tried CTRL+SHIFT+R and it found 2 duplicate textures but the blank signs are still showing (now black). I'm supposed to copy the scenery.cfg in the main FSX folder right? No thats the non working scenery.cfg. The correct one is hidden, I posted the location in a post above but here it is again.Its located atC:\ProgramData\Microsoft\FSXProgramData is a "hidden" folder so you will need to unhide it.Did you try the missing texture alert I suggested? Never mind, lol I saw your edit. Avsim Board of Directors | Avsim Forums Moderator
June 4, 201115 yr Moderator [Area.151]Title=UT Alaska CitiesLocal=Scenery\UtAkCitiesLayer=151Active=TRUERequired=FALSE[Area.152]Title=UT Alaska MeshLocal=Scenery\UtAkMeshLayer=152Active=TRUERequired=FALSE[Area.154]Title=RCTP BackgroundLocal=Addon Scenery\RCTP BackgroundActive=TRUERequired=FALSELayer=153[Area.153]Title=RCTPLocal=Addon Scenery\RCTPActive=TRUERequired=FALSELayer=154[Area.155]Title=ZSPD PudongLocal=Addon Scenery\ZSPD PudongActive=TRUERequired=FALSELayer=155There are some errors in the scnery.cfg regarding the numbers of the areas and layers.As example in your last few entries I sorted out above. Everything is fine until you get to Area.152. The next "Area" should be Area.153, but yours in 154 with a layer of 153[Area.151]Title=UT Alaska CitiesLocal=Scenery\UtAkCitiesLayer=151Active=TRUERequired=FALSE[Area.152]Title=UT Alaska MeshLocal=Scenery\UtAkMeshLayer=152Active=TRUERequired=FALSE[Area.154] --- errorTitle=RCTP BackgroundLocal=Addon Scenery\RCTP BackgroundActive=TRUERequired=FALSELayer=153 ---error[Area.153] -errorTitle=RCTPLocal=Addon Scenery\RCTPActive=TRUERequired=FALSELayer=154 --error[Area.155]Title=ZSPD PudongLocal=Addon Scenery\ZSPD PudongActive=TRUERequired=FALSELayer=155The last few entries should read as follows.[Area.151]Title=UT Alaska CitiesLocal=Scenery\UtAkCitiesLayer=151Active=TRUERequired=FALSE[Area.152]Title=UT Alaska MeshLocal=Scenery\UtAkMeshLayer=152Active=TRUERequired=FALSE[Area.153]Title=RCTP BackgroundLocal=Addon Scenery\RCTP BackgroundActive=TRUERequired=FALSELayer=153[Area.154]Title=RCTPLocal=Addon Scenery\RCTPActive=TRUERequired=FALSELayer=154[Area.155]Title=ZSPD PudongLocal=Addon Scenery\ZSPD PudongActive=TRUERequired=FALSELayer=155NOTE: The Area.XXX numbers ALWAYS need to match the Layer=XXX numbers.I'm not sure that will fix your problem, but renumber your "correct" scenery.cfg file to that the numbers match like they should and try FSX again and see if that makes a difference. Also NEVER use the FSX UI scenery section to move scenery layers around, thats a receipe for scenery.cfg file disaster. Search the Avsim library and use a scenery.cfg editor to make any layering adjustments.Other than that your scenery.cfg looks like, but I am not using UTX Cananda or Alaska so I cant vouch for the accuracy as to how yours is layerd. I only run UTX USA and Euro.Lastly, if correcting the numbering in your scenery.cfg doesn't fix the problem, try disabling those last there entries in your scenery.cfg and try again to make sure those last three addon entries aren't causing a problem.Let me know how you go after that.NO MORE POST EDIT from either of us, lol. It makes it too hard to keep up, hahaha Avsim Board of Directors | Avsim Forums Moderator
June 4, 201115 yr Author Ok I just tested FSX again and I think the signs are fine. This is really stupid on my part because signs have black edges and backsides. So looking at them from behind they look black (and wrong). What really confused me was the fact that some signs at some airports have grey non-marking sides instead of black. So I saw a problem that really wasn't a problem in the first place. I apologize for leading you astray and I'd like to thank you again for your patience and all the great suggestions which I'll remember for future troubleshooting.Regards,Nick No thats the non working scenery.cfg. The correct one is hidden, I posted the location in a post above but here it is again.Its located atC:\ProgramData\Microsoft\FSXProgramData is a "hidden" folder so you will need to unhide it.Did you try the missing texture alert I suggested? Never mind, lol I saw your edit. Fulcrum One Yoke / FSProjects Airbus Side Stick, Honeycomb Bravo, Slaw Device RX Viper V2 Intel Core Ultra 9 285K, PNY RTX 5080, 48GB RAM
June 4, 201115 yr Moderator Ok I just tested FSX again and I think the signs are fine. This is really stupid on my part because signs have black edges and backsides. So looking at them from behind they look black (and wrong). What really confused me was the fact that some signs at some airports have grey non-marking sides instead of black. So I saw a problem that really wasn't a problem in the first place. I apologize for leading you astray and I'd like to thank you again for your patience and all the great suggestions which I'll remember for future troubleshooting.Regards,NickNo problem Nick :-)You should still correct those scenery.cfg error that I high lighted and find yourself a good freeware scenery.cfg editor to use for in the future when moving stuff around. I use SCM2004 which was for FS9 but you can make it work in FSX, but I know there are also newer ones in the Avsim library that were made for FSX specifically.I'm surprised that you weren't getting the building scenery.cfg message everytime you start FSX with those errors, or maybe you were but didn't know that it shouldn't be happening.Glad your up to speed now :-) Avsim Board of Directors | Avsim Forums Moderator
June 4, 201115 yr NOTE: The Area.XXX numbers ALWAYS need to match the Layer=XXX numbers.Not to be a spoil sport, but that's not the case. The Area is just the sequential entry into the file. The Layer prioritizes the scenery display.Some of us do edit the file to make them match, but that may be a personality quirk/fault... FWIW, I've seen many cases where FSX gets the Scenery.cfg file all messed up after adding or deleting stuff, whereas with FS9 I can't recall ever seeing that occur.
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