Nope, I like my joystick just fine, We get tray tables

Guess the sidestick'd be a little better if it actually gave feedback though, no?

Guess the sidestick'd be a little better if it actually gave feedback though, no?

I would kill for it to be linked to the FOs sidestick, that is the one thing I don't like about the Airbuses, especially on approach with a relatively new FO and your not sure if he's going to flare correctly but you can't give him a little bit of pressure on the stick like you could in the Boeing aircraft or you'd get a dual imput warning...

I would kill for it to be linked to the FOs sidestick, that is the one thing I don't like about the Airbuses, especially on approach with a relatively new FO and your not sure if he's going to flare correctly but you can't give him a little bit of pressure on the stick like you could in the Boeing aircraft or you'd get a dual imput warning...

I can imagine. Probably accounts (partially) for the relatively high amount of hard landings the A320's get subjected to by new FO's. Still fantastic airliners but I have to say I prefer the Boeing 777/787 and Bombardier Cseries FBW logic to the Airbus 320/330/340/350/380 logic.

I can imagine. Probably accounts (partially) for the relatively high amount of hard landings the A320's get subjected to by new FO's. Still fantastic airliners but I have to say I prefer the Boeing 777/787 and Bombardier Cseries FBW logic to the Airbus 320/330/340/350/380 logic.

Well TBH I love the idea of the table in front of you, no more propping up your dinner on a cushion on your lap. That was the first thing I noticed about the Airbuses and has stuck with me ever since I started on them. If only the sticks could be linked together or have a kind of force feed back that responded to the other pilots movements that would be great. Contrary to popular belief, the Airbuses are great aircraft, I love the cockpit, so bright and airy, I paid a quick visit to a RYR 738 cockpit there about 4 months ago just for 60 secs to get a looksy at it and boy did it have a cramped feel to it. Then again, I used operate the 737 classics and loved them, but definitely I'd stick with the airbuses any day.

Heffron, Not on severe turbulence. Just use keyboard with calm weather. Adenilson

BUt there is always chance of flying into Turbulence right? Or are you an Always Clear Weather pilot?

Well TBH I love the idea of the table in front of you, no more propping up your dinner on a cushion on your lap. That was the first thing I noticed about the Airbuses and has stuck with me ever since I started on them. If only the sticks could be linked together or have a kind of force feed back that responded to the other pilots movements that would be great. Contrary to popular belief, the Airbuses are great aircraft, I love the cockpit, so bright and airy, I paid a quick visit to a RYR 738 cockpit there about 4 months ago just for 60 secs to get a looksy at it and boy did it have a cramped feel to it. Then again, I used operate the 737 classics and loved them, but definitely I'd stick with the airbuses any day.

It's not the sidesticks I'm opposed to - I agree there's a hell of a lot of space in an Airbus and the NG's do seem rather cramped. It's the FBW logic - e.g, in Normal Law the FBW can't be overruled by the pilots - it means you can't go past the envelope even if you have to and can leave pilots confused and vulnerable if FBW switches to Alternate, as I'm sure you're aware (e.g AF 447.) Boeing / Bombardier you can override what the FBW wants at any time, and the Bombardier Cseries has sidesticks aswell.

Urm, not being funny or anything, but when would you intentionally want to stall, overspeed, get more than 67 degrees of bank or 30 degrees pitch? I'm not sure about AF447, but AFAIK, it only should have gone into abnormal attitude law, and not alternate law, but I'll have to look that one up. Oh and were not confused about the FBW, we know the airframes limitations and don't exceed them.

Urm, not being funny or anything, but when would you intentionally want to stall, overspeed, get more than 67 degrees of bank or 30 degrees pitch? I'm not sure about AF447, but AFAIK, it only should have gone into abnormal attitude law, and not alternate law, but I'll have to look that one up. Oh and were not confused about the FBW, we know the airframes limitations and don't exceed them.

Unreliable airspeed triggers an A/P and A/T disconnect and a switch to Alternate Law. The pilots of AF 447 were certainly put in a confused state by that, plus they'd had no high altitude unreliable airspeed training, and so responded with procedures for unreliable airspeed at low altitude, which put them in a stall (and with no stall protection obviously.) Interesting how they never even realised they were stalled - don't blame them to be honest, especially with the intermittent stall warner (and very odd stall characteristics.) And yeah, I agree it's very unlikely a pilot would ever have to override the FBW - but still, nice to have contingency, no? Doesn't of course detract from the fact that the Airbus's are absolute marvels of engineering, really fantastic aircraft and great for pax & crew alike. Oh and was it Aer Lingus too that you flew the 737 classics for?

Yup Back in my days as a humble FO. Speaking of the AF477 case, one of things I would like implemented in the airbus series is an AoA dial, like in the 737, would really help with situational awareness.

Yup Back in my days as a humble FO. Speaking of the AF477 case, one of things I would like implemented in the airbus series is an AoA dial, like in the 737, would really help with situational awareness.

Wow, sounds like you've had a sweet career so far if I may say so! And yeah, an AoA indicator is something I think should be incorporated into all cockpits - I mean, it's crazy to measure the alpha and then not give that information to the crew.