Hello AllI used to use a Saitek Cyborg joystick. After years of sterling service this finally expired .One thing I could do with the Saitek was map the F9 key (open close FSNavigator) to a button on it.My next choice of stick after the demise of the Borg was the Thrustmaster X Hotas, now this stick for its price is by far the best I have owned ,but for one little thing, I can't program the F9 key (as I could with my old Cyborg (silly names) this is only a minor ,but nonetheless irritating problem as every time I need to open FSNav (flight planning or inflight) I have to keep reaching for my keyboard each time and it can be really annoying (probably doesn't sound so ,but it is for me).Has anybody here got the Thrustmaster and if so have you by any chance managed to program the F9 (FSNav ) key to the hotas ? Maybe I am overlooking something in the programming and it can be done.Anywayscheers Andy

I did it on my HOTAS Warthog and it works...

I did it on my HOTAS Warthog and it works...

A little expansion as to how you did it would be appreciated.I am not sure whether the programming software of the warthog is different from the Hotas x.AndyPS have just googled the Warthog and it looks a lot more complex and expensive than my humble hotas and maybe comes with more comprehensive programming options.

I own the HOTAS -X also, nice stick.. The only way to map F9 (FSNAV) is using a registered version of FSUIPC and referring to the "FSUIPC for advanced users.pdf". Attached is my "cheatsheet" & my entries for FSUIPC. Note the entry for FSNAV is under (BUTTONS) entry #47. It requires the right base button to be down then click the left base button. I have 2 alternate buttons to double the functions on either side of the stick.Roman

[JoystickCalibration]FlapsSetControl=0ReverserControl=66292MaxThrottleForReverser=0AileronTrimControl=0RudderTrimControl=0CowlFlaps1Control=0CowlFlaps2Control=0CowlFlaps3Control=0CowlFlaps4Control=0Aileron=-14141,0,0,14119/8Elevator=-16254,0,0,15499/8Rudder=-9517,0,0,12737/8Throttle=-16192,16192/8SepRevsJetsOnly=NoReverser1Control=66422Reverser2Control=66425Reverser3Control=66428Reverser4Control=66431ApplyHeloTrim=NoFlapDetents=NoMaxSteerSpeed=60SlopeAileron=5SlopeElevator=6SlopeRudder=5AllowSuppressForPFCquad=YesExcludeThrottleSet=YesExcludeMixtureSet=YesExcludePropPitchSet=YesUseAxisControlsForNRZ=No[buttons]!1=// BRAKES - PARKING BRAKES0=CR(-0,11)0,0,C65588,01=CP(+0,11)0,0,C65752,0!2=// RESET VIEW - ZOOM TO 75%2=CP(-0,11)0,1,C65550,03=CP(-0,11)0,1,C65655,04=CP(-0,11)0,1,C66530,0!3=// CYCLE VIEWS5=CP(+0,11)0,1,C65749,0!4=// LANDING GEAR - ALL LIGHTS6=CP(-0,11)0,2,C65570,07=CP(+0,11)0,2,C65574,0!5=// RESERVED FOR TEAMSPEAK  & PICPIC (ACTIVE WINDOW ONLY)  SB (SEE 48, 49)8=CP(-0,8)0,4,K44,8// 9=CR(-0,11)0,3,K145,8!6=// PAUSE10=CP(+0,11)0,3,C65561,0!7=// HAT VIEWS - PANNING// REPEAT=CR , SINGLE = CP11=CR(-0,11)(-0,8)0,32,C65734,012=CR(-0,11)(-0,8)0,33,C65856,013=CR(-0,11)(-0,8)0,34,C65672,014=CR(-0,11)(-0,8)0,35,C65857,015=CR(-0,11)(-0,8)0,36,C65735,016=CR(-0,11)(-0,8)0,37,C65855,017=CR(-0,11)(-0,8)0,38,C65671,018=CR(-0,11)(-0,8)0,39,C65854,0!8=// HAT VIEWS - LOOK19=CP(+0,11)(-0,8)0,32,C65674,020=CP(+0,11)(-0,8)0,33,C65675,021=CP(+0,11)(-0,8)0,34,C65676,022=CP(+0,11)(-0,8)0,35,C65677,023=CP(+0,11)(-0,8)0,36,C65678,024=CP(+0,11)(-0,8)0,37,C65679,025=CP(+0,11)(-0,8)0,38,C65680,026=CP(+0,11)(-0,8)0,39,C65681,0!9=// HAT VIEWS - LOOK UP27=CP(-0,11)(+0,8)0,32,C66137,028=CP(-0,11)(+0,8)0,33,C66138,029=CP(-0,11)(+0,8)0,34,C66139,030=CP(-0,11)(+0,8)0,35,C66140,031=CP(-0,11)(+0,8)0,36,C66141,032=CP(-0,11)(+0,8)0,37,C66142,033=CP(-0,11)(+0,8)0,38,C66143,034=CP(-0,11)(+0,8)0,39,C66144,0!10=// ARM SPOILER - SPOILER35=CP(-0,8)0,4,C65853,036=CP(+0,8)0,4,C65589,0!11=// TRIM UP - FLAPS UP37=CR(-0,8)0,5,C65615,038=CP(+0,8)0,5,C65759,0!12=// TRIM DOWN - FLAPS DOWN39=CR(-0,8)0,6,C65607,040=CP(+0,8)0,6,C65758,0!13=// THRUST REVERSE - AUTO START41=CR(-0,8)0,7,C65602,042=CP(+0,8)0,7,C66224,0!14=// A/P - A/T ARM!15=// SET AS TOGGLE - OFF ONLY IS COMMENTED OUT43=CP(-0,8)0,9,K90,844=CP(+0,8)0,9,K82,9// 43=CP(-0,8)0,9,C65791,0// 44=CP(+0,8)0,9,C66113,0!16=// LEFT SIDE ALT - AFTERBURNER!17=// BUTTON 8 IS THE THROTTLE QUADRANT ALTERNATE FUNTION// BOTH ALTERNATES=AFTERBURNER45=CP(+0,8)0,11,C66296,0!18=// BARO SET - FSNAV!19=// 29.92 (COMMENTED OUT - NEED PREVIOUS ENTRY) - RELOAD PANELS (COMMENTED OUT, FOR GAUGE PROGRAMMERS)46=CP(-0,11)0,10,C65584,047=CP(+0,11)0,10,K120,8// (29.92) 47=CP(+0,11)0,10,K66,1148=CP(-0,11)0,10,C66492,0!20=// BUTTON 11 IS THE STICK/BASE ALTERNATE FUNTION!21=//  SQUAWKBOX PTT  OR USE 1068,106949=CP(-0,11)0,3,C1001,050=CU(-0,11)0,3,C1002,0ButtonRepeat=20,10[Axes]0=0U,2561=0U,BR,-16384,-6837,65721,02=0U,BR,6966,16383,65720,0[JoyNames]AutoAssignLetters=No0=T.Flight Hotas X

I own the HOTAS -X also, nice stick.. The only way to map F9 (FSNAV) is using a registered version of FSUIPC and referring to the "FSUIPC for advanced users.pdf". Attached is my "cheatsheet" & my entries for FSUIPC. Note the entry for FSNAV is under (BUTTONS) entry #47. It requires the right base button to be down then click the left base button. I have 2 alternate buttons to double the functions on either side of the stick.Roman

[JoystickCalibration]FlapsSetControl=0ReverserControl=66292MaxThrottleForReverser=0AileronTrimControl=0RudderTrimControl=0CowlFlaps1Control=0CowlFlaps2Control=0CowlFlaps3Control=0CowlFlaps4Control=0Aileron=-14141,0,0,14119/8Elevator=-16254,0,0,15499/8Rudder=-9517,0,0,12737/8Throttle=-16192,16192/8SepRevsJetsOnly=NoReverser1Control=66422Reverser2Control=66425Reverser3Control=66428Reverser4Control=66431ApplyHeloTrim=NoFlapDetents=NoMaxSteerSpeed=60SlopeAileron=5SlopeElevator=6SlopeRudder=5AllowSuppressForPFCquad=YesExcludeThrottleSet=YesExcludeMixtureSet=YesExcludePropPitchSet=YesUseAxisControlsForNRZ=No[buttons]!1=// BRAKES - PARKING BRAKES0=CR(-0,11)0,0,C65588,01=CP(+0,11)0,0,C65752,0!2=// RESET VIEW - ZOOM TO 75%2=CP(-0,11)0,1,C65550,03=CP(-0,11)0,1,C65655,04=CP(-0,11)0,1,C66530,0!3=// CYCLE VIEWS5=CP(+0,11)0,1,C65749,0!4=// LANDING GEAR - ALL LIGHTS6=CP(-0,11)0,2,C65570,07=CP(+0,11)0,2,C65574,0!5=// RESERVED FOR TEAMSPEAK  & PICPIC (ACTIVE WINDOW ONLY)  SB (SEE 48, 49)8=CP(-0,8)0,4,K44,8// 9=CR(-0,11)0,3,K145,8!6=// PAUSE10=CP(+0,11)0,3,C65561,0!7=// HAT VIEWS - PANNING// REPEAT=CR , SINGLE = CP11=CR(-0,11)(-0,8)0,32,C65734,012=CR(-0,11)(-0,8)0,33,C65856,013=CR(-0,11)(-0,8)0,34,C65672,014=CR(-0,11)(-0,8)0,35,C65857,015=CR(-0,11)(-0,8)0,36,C65735,016=CR(-0,11)(-0,8)0,37,C65855,017=CR(-0,11)(-0,8)0,38,C65671,018=CR(-0,11)(-0,8)0,39,C65854,0!8=// HAT VIEWS - LOOK19=CP(+0,11)(-0,8)0,32,C65674,020=CP(+0,11)(-0,8)0,33,C65675,021=CP(+0,11)(-0,8)0,34,C65676,022=CP(+0,11)(-0,8)0,35,C65677,023=CP(+0,11)(-0,8)0,36,C65678,024=CP(+0,11)(-0,8)0,37,C65679,025=CP(+0,11)(-0,8)0,38,C65680,026=CP(+0,11)(-0,8)0,39,C65681,0!9=// HAT VIEWS - LOOK UP27=CP(-0,11)(+0,8)0,32,C66137,028=CP(-0,11)(+0,8)0,33,C66138,029=CP(-0,11)(+0,8)0,34,C66139,030=CP(-0,11)(+0,8)0,35,C66140,031=CP(-0,11)(+0,8)0,36,C66141,032=CP(-0,11)(+0,8)0,37,C66142,033=CP(-0,11)(+0,8)0,38,C66143,034=CP(-0,11)(+0,8)0,39,C66144,0!10=// ARM SPOILER - SPOILER35=CP(-0,8)0,4,C65853,036=CP(+0,8)0,4,C65589,0!11=// TRIM UP - FLAPS UP37=CR(-0,8)0,5,C65615,038=CP(+0,8)0,5,C65759,0!12=// TRIM DOWN - FLAPS DOWN39=CR(-0,8)0,6,C65607,040=CP(+0,8)0,6,C65758,0!13=// THRUST REVERSE - AUTO START41=CR(-0,8)0,7,C65602,042=CP(+0,8)0,7,C66224,0!14=// A/P - A/T ARM!15=// SET AS TOGGLE - OFF ONLY IS COMMENTED OUT43=CP(-0,8)0,9,K90,844=CP(+0,8)0,9,K82,9// 43=CP(-0,8)0,9,C65791,0// 44=CP(+0,8)0,9,C66113,0!16=// LEFT SIDE ALT - AFTERBURNER!17=// BUTTON 8 IS THE THROTTLE QUADRANT ALTERNATE FUNTION// BOTH ALTERNATES=AFTERBURNER45=CP(+0,8)0,11,C66296,0!18=// BARO SET - FSNAV!19=// 29.92 (COMMENTED OUT - NEED PREVIOUS ENTRY) - RELOAD PANELS (COMMENTED OUT, FOR GAUGE PROGRAMMERS)46=CP(-0,11)0,10,C65584,047=CP(+0,11)0,10,K120,8// (29.92) 47=CP(+0,11)0,10,K66,1148=CP(-0,11)0,10,C66492,0!20=// BUTTON 11 IS THE STICK/BASE ALTERNATE FUNTION!21=//  SQUAWKBOX PTT  OR USE 1068,106949=CP(-0,11)0,3,C1001,050=CU(-0,11)0,3,C1002,0ButtonRepeat=20,10[Axes]0=0U,2561=0U,BR,-16384,-6837,65721,02=0U,BR,6966,16383,65720,0[JoyNames]AutoAssignLetters=No0=T.Flight Hotas X

Thanks Roman for taking the time. I have to confess to not understanding what you have sent me ,but if I do go for the payware FSUIPC I imagine I could sort it out.It does look as though some of the newer and more expensive Thrustmaster sticks have software that allows you to program keys (like F9-FSNav ) as standard.Cheers to youAndy