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APP minimums

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Hey,i currently do not get any app minimums call out, how can i enable it? and also, can i set it to various conditions? or its automatic? thanks and regards

Daniel choen

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Far left knobs on the EFIS control panel.. You can adjust it for both radio and barosettings.

Mark Keith

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Hey thanks, and according wo what i need to change it? and what do i need to do if i don't even get it? how can i enable it? thanks again

Daniel choen

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Outer knob with pointer selects radio or baro. Middle button turns it on/offin either mode. Middle knob adjusts the altitude. The set altitude will be displayeddown on the bottom black area of the PFD to the left of the altitude tape.

Mark Keith

He's asking according to what he needs to change it. Minimums is the decision height where you decide whether to land or not. If the runway is in site, you continue, if the runway is not in sight as minimums, you go around.Where to find the minimums altitude? On charts, on approach plates. For example you're landing on EHAM ILS 27. Then get the chart of EHAM ILS 27. Down the bottom should be a part with EU OPS or JAR OPS next to it. There should be several columns with CAT II, ILS or LOC+DME. Most of the time you'll be doing a CAT II. Now you will also see several categories, category A, B, C and D. These categories depend on landing speeds. I dunno exactly which landing speeds belong to each category but as far as I can remember, B is 136-141 KTS, C is 141-146. So as you can see a 737NG will be category B or C in most cases. Now simply pick the right category and there you see the mininums altitude next to it. In this case, it's 100 ft RA (Radio Altitude). No turn the outer knob of the RA, and the inner knob to 100 (you can see the altitude setting on the PFD).

Arjen Vandervelde

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He's asking according to what he needs to change it. Minimums is the decision height where you decide whether to land or not. If the runway is in site, you continue, if the runway is not in sight as minimums, you go around.Where to find the minimums altitude? On charts, on approach plates. For example you're landing on EHAM ILS 27. Then get the chart of EHAM ILS 27. Down the bottom should be a part with EU OPS or JAR OPS next to it. There should be several columns with CAT II, ILS or LOC+DME. Most of the time you'll be doing a CAT II. Now you will also see several categories, category A, B, C and D. These categories depend on landing speeds. I dunno exactly which landing speeds belong to each category but as far as I can remember, B is 136-141 KTS, C is 141-146. So as you can see a 737NG will be category B or C in most cases. Now simply pick the right category and there you see the mininums altitude next to it. In this case, it's 100 ft RA (Radio Altitude). No turn the outer knob of the RA, and the inner knob to 100 (you can see the altitude setting on the PFD).
Hey, thanks for the help, but i looked for the charts at gatwick 26L ILS and i have kinda plate with a b c d but B is a minimums of a 255 is that possible? or i am looking at the wrong section?

Daniel choen

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255ft is correct for 26L, Cat II, B.Minimums varies from airport to airport.Catagory A = less than 91 knotsCatagory B = 91 and less than 121 knotsCatagory C = 121 and less than 141 knotsCatagory D = 141 and less than 166 knotsThese are 1.3 x the stalling speed for the aircraft, according to google.So if you were a bit heavier or using less flap, you might have landing speed vref of 135kts, then you are C, giving 268ft mins.

-Iain Watson-

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255ft is correct for 26L, Cat II, B.Minimums varies from airport to airport.Catagory A = less than 91 knotsCatagory B = 91 and less than 121 knotsCatagory C = 121 and less than 141 knotsCatagory D = 141 and less than 166 knotsThese are 1.3 x the stalling speed for the aircraft, according to google.So if you were a bit heavier or using less flap, you might have landing speed vref of 135kts, then you are C, giving 268ft mins.
hey thank you very much,are the landing speed class can change from airport to airport? or every class is the same also where i can check the landing speed for every class? thanks in advance(:

Daniel choen

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I'm no expert, I think the speeds are fixed, I got them from google.For the 737, I remember in my head 121kts and 141kts...so B 121, C 141, D

-Iain Watson-

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I'm no expert, I think the speeds are fixed, I got them from google.For the 737, I remember in my head 121kts and 141kts...so B 121, C 141, D
THANKS(:

Daniel choen

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Hey, thanks for the help, but i looked for the charts at gatwick 26L ILS and i have kinda plate with a b c d but B is a minimums of a 255 is that possible? or i am looking at the wrong section?
Yes 255 is correct. But make sure you use the right setting, RA or BARO! When it says RA 255, this means turn the outer knob to RA in the inner knob to 255 feet radio altitude. So this means at 255 ft above ground level (AGL), the minumums will be called out by the GPWS. But if it says 255 on the chart (without RA), then this means the minimums is 255 ft above sea level (ASL). In this case, you have to turn the outer knob to BARO and turn the inner knob to 255.

Arjen Vandervelde

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Hey, whats the different between the outer and the inner? because when i set it today for my flight , i set it to 255, and it called at 50ft, it was on the baro the inner, thanks again.

Daniel choen

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Hey, whats the different between the outer and the inner? because when i set it today for my flight , i set it to 255, and it called at 50ft, it was on the baro the inner, thanks again.
Sorry I meant the inner knob for the RA/BARO setting. If it says on your chart 255, this means set it to 255 ft BARO (inner knob to BARO). If it says on your chart RA 255, then set it to 255 RA (inner knob to RA (=radio altitude)).

Arjen Vandervelde

I'm also having a question about minimums btw, I know quite a lot but I'm no expert. On my charts, in the JAR OPS section, it's displaying 3 columns: CAT II, ILS, and LOC+DME. How do I determine whether I'm doing a CAT II or an ILS? Is CAT II an ILS with autoland, and is ILS a manual ILS approach, correct? For CAT II, minimums is RA 100 (296 BARO), for runway 26L. And for ILS, it's 400 BARO (RA 200). So when I'm doing an autoland, I should use RA 100, and when I'm landing manually with ILS, I should use RA 200 (= BARO 400), correct?

Arjen Vandervelde

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Sorry I meant the inner knob for the RA/BARO setting. If it says on your chart 255, this means set it to 255 ft BARO (inner knob to BARO). If it says on your chart RA 255, then set it to 255 RA (inner knob to RA (=radio altitude)).
I'm also having a question about minimums btw, I know quite a lot but I'm no expert. On my charts, in the JAR OPS section, it's displaying 3 columns: CAT II, ILS, and LOC+DME. How do I determine whether I'm doing a CAT II or an ILS?Is CAT II an ILS with autoland, and is ILS a manual ILS approach, correct? For CAT II, minimums is RA 100 (296 BARO), for runway 26L. And for ILS, it's 400 BARO (RA 200). So when I'm doing an autoland, I should use RA 100, and when I'm landing manually with ILS, I should use RA 200 (= BARO 400), correct?
Hey,where should the RA should be write? next to the number?, and also your question is interesting i would love if some one can answer please.

Daniel choen

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