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CPU or GPU upgrade?

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Hi there, currently running FSX on a Phenom II 955 overclocked to 3.8 ghz, and a EVGA nvidia 560 TI. 8 gb of ram with Windows 7. 1080p resolution output to my TV. Settings are all nearly high except for water (set to low), and autogen (one setting below the max). Performance is still pretty dismal in big airports ~ 10 fps, and fps fluctuates in the virtual cockpit of the 737 NGX. It makes it extremely difficult to land with all the choppiness.Would I benefit by upgrading to a nvidia 570/580, or switching over to an intel chip? I could probably continue to overclock my cpu up to 4 ghz. Thanks.

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Currently your CPU is the bottleneck, and will be with that particular hardware. It's just the price you pay for complex scenery. I wouldn't upgrade anything until you're ready for a new system down the road.An upgrade to your GPU will, in your case, only help when around less complex scenery with higher anti-aliasing settings and hi-def clouds. Again, the CPU is your only option for upgrade with your current situation and said lack of performance.

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Will upgrading to sandbridge, lets say an i5 2500k offer much of an improvement over the 955 BE phenom II? Thanks again.

Soarbywire - Avionics Engineering

Heaps, I would guarantee. Even without an OC, but without one, you would be stupid. With my 570 and 4.6GHz 2500k I can get 18-25 FPS on approach into FTX YMML with a fair bit of AI, maybe eightyish, Dense autogen, 7cm textures etc. Also run with 8xS and 4x multisampling I think and 12x AF.

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Thats pretty good. Do you think prices will drop? Its not so easy for me, as I will have to upgrade the processor, cpu, and power supply. It also seems you are liquid cooling, so you have to push the CPU quite far to maintain those FPS. But then again, YMML isn't very optimised.

Soarbywire - Avionics Engineering

Thats pretty good. Do you think prices will drop? Its not so easy for me, as I will have to upgrade the processor, cpu, and power supply. It also seems you are liquid cooling, so you have to push the CPU quite far to maintain those FPS. But then again, YMML isn't very optimised.
To answer your immediate questions, prices won't be dropping on Sandy Bridge anytime soon. Also, a 4.5GHz overclock is achievable on most reasonable CPU coolers.I wouldn't make the Sandy Bridge leap just yet, despite the huge benefits you'll see from upgrading to it. Ivy Bridge is right around the corner, and I think you should wait and see what it has to offer.

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What PSU do you have now? Anyway, 2500K is more power efficient than Phenom II's, so you won't need a new one

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I hear ivy bridge will come out in April. Will it bring our wallets a whole lot of hurt or will it be priced competitively?

Soarbywire - Avionics Engineering

Prices of Ivy Bridge will be roughly the same as Sandy Bridge according to the jungle drums. Either Ivy or Sandy will wind up your world rather nicely. Ivy might be the better bet though. The GPU you already have is adequate.Kind regards,

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Will ivy bridge run with the same cpus compatible with sandy bridge or will they be bringing out new processors as well? According to wikipedia ivy bridge will be about 30 pc faster then sandy bridge

Soarbywire - Avionics Engineering

Ivy Bridge is a new set of processors. More or less an optimized version of Sandy Bridge with some extras. How much better it'll be, that remains to be seen. It will mostly depend on how much better it overclocks, and what impact will PCIe 3.0 have.So you'd need to upgrade your CPU, but keeping everything else, although to have PCIe 3.0 you'd also need to upgrade to a PCIe 3.0 graphics card too (AMD's 7000 series or NVidia's 700 series, aka Kepler)

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I take it ivy bridge motherboards will be compatible with previous video cards by providing pcie 2.0 slots?

Soarbywire - Avionics Engineering

Thats pretty good. Do you think prices will drop? Its not so easy for me, as I will have to upgrade the processor, cpu, and power supply. It also seems you are liquid cooling, so you have to push the CPU quite far to maintain those FPS. But then again, YMML isn't very optimised.
Compared to other payware airports YMML is lacking behind in its crisp textures and FPS. I tried canverra in the NGX the other night with most setting to the right, dusk, and very heavy cloud, rarely below 20FPS.
I take it ivy bridge motherboards will be compatible with previous video cards by providing pcie 2.0 slots?
The slot is exactly the same, it comes from the controllers on the CPU and GPU.

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