HiI've been using RC4 for absolutely ages with no issues whatso ever. However today when trying a flight from KSFO to KLAX I load up at the gate and as soon as I start RC it makes my aircraft jump to the centre of the airport. I've tried with a few flightplans now and everytime it make my plane jump to the departure airport, even if I'm somehwere else. The on screen menu also fails to load after this.The only things I've recently installed on my computer are, FS2Crew NGX, Flightbeam KSFO, and FSDT's KLAX and KLAS.Any help will be gratefully appreciated.

Usually that symptom reflects a difference in coordinates of the departure airport and RC's data.First, make sure that you have the current FSUIPC and makerwys from these two locations, then rebuild the RC scenery database.http://forum.simflight.com/topic/66139-updated-modules/http://forum.simflight.com/topic/66136-useful-additional-programs/Also check the coordinates in the flight plan.If you have FSX and FS9 installation be sure you declare the correct FS path for the RC FS version installation folder (rcv4 or rcv4x) so the data matches the sim scenery for that version.The coordinates for the airport reference point that RC checks against are in the data folder. Make a safe copy of a4.csv and then you can open it in word or notepad, search for the ICAO code, and get the coordinates in decimal notation as:KSFO, , 37.61876 ,-122.3749 ,-15.6 , 13 , 11861 from FS9.that translates two 37 degrees, 37 min, 07 sec. N and 122 deg, 22 min, 29 sec W.In your flight plan that should also agree.The next thing to check is that there are no competing afd type scenery files and in your case Flightbeam KSFO has priority. To see the highest priority handed to RC go to your fs folder and open the file runways.txt in word (it is huge so do not use notepad).Do a search for KSFO. The first instance will be the FS default. The first line of the section indicates the path to the scenery and for the default it would go to an APxxxxxx.bgl file. Move the cursor down to the next airport and repeat the search. From this point on there should be two sections for add-ons. Each pair consists of a deletion section and a section with runways and other data. note the path to the scenery add-on at the head of each section. Continue searching for the last pair and in your case it should point to your KSFO add-on. The last pair has priority and RC calculates the airport center based on the runways in the scenery.Here is my data (in part) for Fly-Tampa's KSFO published by Aerosoft for FS9:=============================================================================Area.177 "US-Airports-SanFrancisco" (Layer=181)Local=aerosoftU.S. AirportsSanFrancisco=============================================================================aerosoftU.S. AirportsSanFranciscosceneryaf2_flytampa_ksfo.bgl=============================================================================Deletions check for Airport KSFO: Delete all taxiways! Delete all runways and starts! *** DelBth *** KSFO0011 Lat 37.608986 Long -122.382210 Alt 13 Hdg 12 Len 7505 Wid 200 *** DelBth *** KSFO0012 Lat 37.606808 Long -122.380722 Alt 13 Hdg 12 Len 8654 Wid 200 *** DelBth *** KSFO0101 Lat 37.628731 Long -122.393425 Alt 13 Hdg 102 Len 11861 Wid 200 *** DelBth *** KSFO0102 Lat 37.625286 Long -122.390739 Alt 13 Hdg 102 Len 10594 Wid 200 *** DelBth *** KSFO0191 Lat 37.627819 Long -122.366776 Alt 13 Hdg 192 Len 8654 Wid 200 ILS 108.90, Flags: GS DME BC *** DelBth *** KSFO0192 Lat 37.627205 Long -122.370110 Alt 13 Hdg 192 Len 7505 Wid 200 *** DelBth *** KSFO0281 Lat 37.611698 Long -122.358315 Alt 13 Hdg 282 Len 10594 Wid 200 ILS 109.55, Flags: GS DME BC *** DelBth *** KSFO0282 Lat 37.613525 Long -122.357109 Alt 13 Hdg 282 Len 11861 Wid 200 ILS 111.70, Flags: GS DME BC Delete all taxiways! COM: Delete all frequencies!=============================================================================aerosoftU.S. AirportsSanFranciscosceneryaf2_flytampa_ksfo.bgl=============================================================================Airport KSFO :N37:37:08.2908 W122:22:29.5987 13ft Country Name="United States" State Name="California" City Name="San Francisco" Airport Name="San Francisco Intl" in file: aerosoftU.S. AirportsSanFranciscosceneryaf2_flytampa_ksfo.bgl Runway 10L/28R centre: N37:37:16.0655 W122:22:31.0055 13ft Start 10L: N37:37:42.6612 W122:23:34.3727 13ft Hdg: 117.9T, Length 11861ft Computed start 10L: Lat 37.628731 Long -122.393438 Start 28R: N37:36:49.4049 W122:21:27.5529 13ft Hdg: 297.9T, Length 11861ft Computed start 28R: Lat 37.613525 Long -122.357127 Hdg: 117.870 true (MagVar 15.600), Asphalt, 11861 x 200 ft Secondary ILS ID = IGWQ *** No matching ILS record - assume provided by another layer *** Runway *** KSFO0101 Lat 37.628731 Long -122.393440 Alt 13 Hdg 102 Len 11861 Wid 200 *** Runway *** KSFO0282 Lat 37.613525 Long -122.357124 Alt 13 Hdg 282 Len 11861 Wid 200 Runway 10R/28L centre: N37:37:06.5739 W122:22:28.3000 13ft Start 10R: N37:37:30.2542 W122:23:24.7390 13ft Hdg: 117.9T, Length 10594ft Computed start 10R: Lat 37.625286 Long -122.390741 Start 28L: N37:36:42.8613 W122:21:31.8643 13ft Hdg: 297.9T, Length 10594ft Computed start 28L: Lat 37.611698 Long -122.358313 Hdg: 117.880 true (MagVar 15.600), Asphalt, 10594 x 200 ft Secondary ILS ID = ISFO *** No matching ILS record - assume provided by another layer *** Runway *** KSFO0102 Lat 37.625286 Long -122.390739 Alt 13 Hdg 102 Len 10594 Wid 200 *** Runway *** KSFO0281 Lat 37.611698 Long -122.358315 Alt 13 Hdg 282 Len 10594 Wid 200 Runway 1R/19L centre: N37:37:02.3627 W122:22:25.5305 13ft Start 1R: N37:36:26.0162 W122:22:49.6077 13ft Hdg: 27.7T, Length 8654ft Computed start 1R: Lat 37.606819 Long -122.380731 Offset Threshold primary: 238 feet Start 19L: N37:37:38.7091 W122:22:01.4051 13ft Hdg: 207.7T, Length 8654ft Computed start 19L: Lat 37.627831 Long -122.366782 Hdg: 27.740 true (MagVar 15.600), Asphalt, 8654 x 200 ft Secondary ILS ID = ISIA *** No matching ILS record - assume provided by another layer *** Runway *** KSFO0012 Lat 37.606819 Long -122.380730 Alt 13 Hdg 12 Len 8654 Wid 200 *** Runway *** KSFO0191 Lat 37.627831 Long -122.366783 Alt 13 Hdg 192 Len 8654 Wid 200 Runway 1L/19R centre: N37:37:05.1486 W122:22:34.1919 13ft Runway 1L closed for landing Runway 19R closed for landing Start 1L: N37:36:33.8233 W122:22:54.9601 13ft Hdg: 27.7T, Length 7505ft Computed start 1L: Lat 37.608986 Long -122.382216 Offset Threshold primary: 491 feet Start 19R: N37:37:36.4739 W122:22:13.4298 13ft Hdg: 207.7T, Length 7505ft Computed start 19R: Lat 37.627205 Long -122.370119 Hdg: 27.740 true (MagVar 15.600), Asphalt, 7505 x 200 ft *** Runway *** KSFO0011 Lat 37.608986 Long -122.382217 Alt 13 Hdg 12 Len 7505 Wid 200 *** Runway *** KSFO0192 Lat 37.627205 Long -122.370117 Alt 13 Hdg 192 Len 7505 Wid 200I marked in bold the scenery name and path, the airport reference center (which matches my a4 entry above), etc.The coordinates should match your flight plan airport coordinates closely.Check that your KSFO pair for the Flightdream version is the last instance of KSFO in runways.txt as this is what used for RC's data.Here's another thread and there are others:http://forum.avsim.net/topic/361560-starting-rc43-plane-moves/

Thanks for the reply Ron. The fix turned out to be updating FSUIPC and MakeRunways. Thank you so much

Just an update on this issue. It has returned. I checked the files you mentioned Ron but to be honest I'm struggling to see what I'm looking for. I'm going to send a log to JD with the flight plan and also the av.csv. I'd tried updating FSUIPC and Makernwys and also rebuilding the scenery db via RC but it hasn't worked this time.

 

EDIT- Just an update. Using default scenery works. Its happening now at UK2000 EGLL. The only way to get round it is to load the plane up at default scenery then switch the payware scenery on.

What you are looking for is that for the troublesome add-on airports The last instance of each add-on pair in runways.txt points to the add-on scenery path, not another afcad, etc. Then check the coordinates in in the a4.csv file (open in word or wordpad) to see if they agree. Next make sure in your flight plan sent to RC that those coordinates also agree with the a4.csv file.

 

If RC sees your aircraft more than a certain distance from the coordinates in a4.csv than it will move your aircraft.

 

jd should get an idea from your log.

I bought My Traffix X 5.4. After installation I have the same problem. Immediately after start of RC the plane jumps to the middle of the runway.

 

I did almost everything to try to solve this issue:

- regen makerwys (checked all csv files)

- rename BR2_KSFO.BGL in mytraffix scenery

- reinstall mytraffic

 

The only thing that helps is to uninstall My Traffix X. :-(

 

Is there a way how to check from logs why RC moves the plane and why?

Yes, a log can help but first:

 

Did you update FSUIPC and makerwys from:

 

http://forum.simflight.com/topic/66139-updated-modules/ and

http://forum.simflight.com/topic/66136-useful-additional-programs/

 

and then run the scenery rebuild again?

 

Are your scenery priorities correct? RC uses the highest priority afd type scenery profile to get the airport coordinates.

 

When your ready to go with the aircraft placed at your parking position load up RC and click the debug button. Then load your flight plan and make other adjustments and start RC. After the aircraft "jumps" you can alt-tab to RC and hit quit. Do not stop FS before quitting RC or you will lose the log and RC will hang. You can then exit FS. Go to the RC folder and you'll see rcv4.log. Rename it to something meaningful like RCv4-KSFO-jump.log so it will not be overwritten.

 

Copy that to a temporary folder you create. Also carefully using wordpad or notepad only, not a spreadsheet, go into the rcv4\data folder, and open a4.csv after making a backup of it. Search for KSFO and then copy that line and paste it into a new .txt file saved into that temporary folder.

 

Zip up those two files in the temporary folder, the log and the line from a4.csv, and attach it to an e-mail message to [email protected] subject RCV4 log for airplane jump. Include in the e-mail text body your flight planner used and the circumstances if it is universal or just specific airports. (For this test you should have My Traffic X reinstalled again and not running any other app. Be sure to rebuild the scenery database for RC after reactivating My Traffic X.) Send it to [email protected].

 

There are a few other things you should check first. Make sure your path to FSX is correct when doing the scenery rebuild. Also RC does not use the Win registry but FSUIPC does now for installation. Use this free utility from flight1 to set the path;

 

http://www.flight1.com/view.asp?page=library

 

and use the registry checker to do your path check for FSX in the registry. In Win 7 or VISTA right click on it and select to run as admin.

 

Also be sure your shortcut to RC has a property set to run as admin (a program level, not user account level).

 

Last as explained in another thread in your FSX folder open the large file runways.txt with word (not notepad) and wait for it to load.

 

Keep searching for KSFO. There should be a final two entries as a pair, one for deletions and one with your runways, etc. That last pair has the highest priority according to your scenery library settings. The path at the head of each section should point to your My TrafficX afcad type file that you mentioned. A sample is in the previous reply in this thread.

 

What is happening is that RC is seeing your aircraft parked more than a certain distance from the calculated airport runways center used for determining the a4.csv coordinates and also those airport coordinates in the flight plan. The log with the additional line from a4.csv should help solve the problem. (The plan with the coordinates will be in the log already.)

Uninstalling Mytraffic seemed to fix it for me. I use UT2 now. It works much better and I find it a much better program.

In UT2 it is best to set your ai spawn range at maximum so RC can see the ai patterns, which take priority, before assigning a runway particularly destination at approach time.

 

If using an external weather application refresh ai after the weather app finishes updating the initial weather at your departure airport and then wait a minute before pressing START in RC so it gets the correct patterns and weather for you.

 

Some of the Active Sky applications have a button to do this and use that even if you have AS automatically set to refresh ai on an update according to my experience.

 

For FSX advancing the time one minute will do this.