I don't know if they were ever fitted to the real Goose, but I doubt it.

Much more of this and it might be time for me to stop posting... :Sigh:

Much more of this and it might be time for me to stop posting...

:D For what it's worth, I suspect we'll be getting a Goose, either with Alaska or as additional DLC. Hopefully soon, too.Oh, and in my last post, the 0.1 should be 1.0 although 0.1 will probably workHook

And? You've never done a forward slip on approach, even in training?Quoting from my Jeppesen Sanderson "Private Pilot Maneuvers", "The slip is a flight attitude used to increase the angle of descent without causing an increase in airspeed." Furthermore, "the forward slip can be valuable when you are landing in fields with obstructions." This is to what I was referring. Why you would consider that worth wagging a finger at is beyond me.

And? You've never done a straight sideslip on approach, even in training?

Did I quote you on anything about slips?No... what I quoted you on was your statement about skids...

skids are your friends when managing altitude and airspeed.

A skid is your friend? Sure it is... if you want to kill yourself in the pattern... who am I to stop you?Go read what your book says about skids...Here's a good question for you... what does a stall and skid equal?Edit: you think a skid is the same as a slip?...

Translation: "I think you meant slips, not skids."Hook

Yeah, no need to get sore about vocabulary. I think we all know which is which, and what skidding at low speeds and altitudes tends to result in :). In the Icons defense (the game version, anyway), it doesn't really NEED flaps. But man, it'd be awesome if it had them. Imagine the places you could land in then!

Translation: "I think you meant slips, not skids."

Do you think I am not taking the time to read what someone says before I respond to it? Here is the (whole) quote from his statement.

Slips and skids are your friends when managing altitude and airspeed. They will quickly get rid of both when properly employed.

So... "slips and slips are your friends" is the "translation"?If he said, "forward-slips and side-slips are your friends..." sure, yes I would I agree with that.But he seemed to get into a huff about my use of the :Shame On You: emoticon. So I explained why I used it... not everyone knows the difference let alone understands them or how to do them. So why I said the "go back to your book and see what it says about skids". If you read forums enough, you will see from time to time statements like "skids are ok". I disagree with that and said so. I think it falls under "abuse of controls"... outside of our sim-gaming of course.My short "Edit" was a sincere question... maybe he thinks slips and skids are one in the same. I was just asking for clarification.

No, you are both right. I know skids are essentially the opposite of a slip in terms of uncoordinated turns, and I should not have said skids are a good way to manage airspeed and altitude. I guess I tend to lump them together since they are related, but not equal and in fact opposites.My bad and thanks for pointing out my error.Edit:As for terminology, in aeronautical engineering a skid is a type of slip. The terms "forward slip" or "side slip" are never used. The slip angle is represented by the symbol β (Greek letter beta). But as pilots, we are taught that a slip is when the rate of turn is too slow for the angle of bank (ball moves to the inside of the turn) and a skid is when the rate of turn is too fast for the angle of bank (ball moves to the outside of the turn). Since we act as pilots in the flight sim environment, I'll stick with the common pilots terminology which differentiates between a slip and a skid.

My bad and thanks for pointing out my error.

And I would sincerely appreciate you pointing out mine as I certainly make them from time to time here ("iron sharpening iron").

The terms "forward slip" or "side slip" are never used.

You will see certain authors use those terms e.g. Bill Kershner's "The Student Pilot's Flight Manual" which I still use from time to time as a teaching reference.That book was my introduction to "flight ground school" which I just happened to buy (many years ago) at the (missing in FLIGHT) Ala Moana shopping center. Edit:Let me belabor this a bit further, please.A skid will have a yaw component. The slip will not. That is why from a "flying" perspective, the difference is so important. Stall + yaw = Spin.Kudos to being a "student" of Aeronautical Engineering WillBill... and envious flight background to have.