hi folks just wondering if anyone owns the queen of the skies? I bought this a good while back but the tutorial flight has never loaded into FSX, however i managed to find the folder with the flight manual with a folder inside called Flight simulator X files and inside thatCLS 747-200 KBOS-KSFO Gate E8 .FLTCLS 747-200 KBOS-KSFO Gate E8.FSSAVECLS 747-200 KBOS-KSFO Gate E8.WXCLS KBOS-KSFO.PLNcan anyone help me allocate these files so the trial flight appears in FSX?thanks all :)(sry if this is in the wrong sub-forum)

I think you're getting mixed up, as the "747 Queen of the Skies" is a completely different product to the CLS 747-200/300The Queen of the Skies is made by PMDG and is an advanced 747-400 simulation (albeit from 2007), whereas the CLS 747-200/300 is a 'lite' addon, with little functionality over and above the default FSX aircraft.Regarding these files:-

CLS 747-200 KBOS-KSFO Gate E8 .FLTCLS 747-200 KBOS-KSFO Gate E8.FSSAVECLS 747-200 KBOS-KSFO Gate E8.WXCLS KBOS-KSFO.PLN

Those are all you need to LOAD the tutorial flight in FSX. They need to be in your My Documents / Flight Simulator X Files, directory on your PC. When they are, you can simply select 'load flight' in FSX and load the flight.Cheers.

I think you're getting mixed up, as the "747 Queen of the Skies" is a completely different product to the CLS 747-200/300

The Boeing 747 in general is sometimes (lovingly) referred to as Queen of the Skies, regardless of flight simulator addons :( :( .

Forgive me for getting it wrong, I thought the "queen of the skys" was a term of endearment used for the 747 since its inception,sorry for running an el cheepo CLS 747other than that, thanks for the info

The CLS 747-200/300 may not be the most expensive or detailed FS simulation ever of a 747, but it is not as basic as many would have you believe. It flies well, with perfomance pretty much on the numbers compared to the real aircraft, the model is pretty good, you get a lot of paint jobs, there are inexpensive freight expansions available for it too. All the old steam gauges required to fly it realistically are there in the sim and work in a fairly attractive and accurate VC, so unless you want to play 'flight engineer', it is an add-on worth having and one which I personally think is somewhat unfairly passed over by people, merely because the PMDG one (which is a completely different aircraft type) is available.Under the hood there is indeed not as much going on systems-wise as you find in more complex sims, but it is nevertheless a fairly decent simulation of the aircraft for everyday flying so long as you don't want to simulate every system failure under the sun. The fact that you can fly both INS-equipped and FMC-equipped variants of all the aircraft in the package adds a lot of 'playability' and value to it, as does the fact that it works in both FS9 and FSX, and even though the FMC is a 'lite' simulation of that particular system, it has enough there to enable one to do the basics of an FMC-controlled flight, which is great if you don't want to spend 30 minutes keying a flight plan in. In contrast to the fairly basic FMC, the INS is a pretty accurate simulation, so it does also offer the option of flight planning realism in an area where it really counts for a simulation of an older 747 from the days where the FMC was not around, with the added bonus of being able to fly an upgraded FMC-equipped one if you like.Regardless of it not being as complex as the PMDG 747, when you are hand-flying it, you still need to operate it as the huge chunk of metal that it represents, so actually flying the CLS one is as enjoyable a task as the PMDG one provides. Dismissing all that as an el cheapo one, is something of a disservice to all the fun and enjoyment it can offer, which after all, is only the same as the approach Quality Wings have taken with their 757, and nobody says that is an el cheapo affair. I think the CLS 747 ticks a lot of the right boxes, especially for the average flight simmer, and would go so far as to say that it is one of the 'must have' airliners for FS if one is a completist, and yes, I do have the PMDG 747-400, and the Aerosim 747-400D too for that matter.Al

The CLS 747-200/300 may not be the most expensive or detailed FS simulation ever of a 747, but it is not as basic as many would have you believe. It flies well, with perfomance pretty much on the numbers compared to the real aircraft, the model is pretty good, you get a lot of paint jobs, there are inexpensive freight expansions available for it too. All the old steam gauges required to fly it realistically are there in the sim and work in a fairly attractive and accurate VC, so unless you want to play 'flight engineer', it is an add-on worth having and one which I personally think is somewhat unfairly passed over by people, merely because the PMDG one (which is a completely different aircraft type) is available.Under the hood there is indeed not as much going on systms-wise as you find in more complex sims, but it is nevertheless a fairly decent simulation of the aircraft for everyday flying so long as you don't want to simulate every system failure under the sun. The fact that you can fly both INS-equipped and FMC-equipped variants of all the aircraft in the package adds a lot of 'playability' and value to it, as does the fact that it works in both FS9 and FSX, and even though the FMC is a 'lite' simulation of that particular system, it has enough there to enable one to do the basics of an FMC-controlled flight, which is great if you don't want to spend 30 minutes keying a flight plan in. In contrast to the fairly basic FMC, the INS is a pretty accurate simulation, so it does also offer the option of flight planning realism in an area where it really counts for a simulation of an older 747 from the days where the FMC was not around, with the added bonus of being able to fly an upgraded FMC-equipped one if you like.Regardless of it not being as complex as the PMDG 747, when you are hand-flying it, you still need to operate it as the huge chunk of metal that it represents, so actually flying the CLS one is as enjoyable a task as the PMDG one provides. Dismissing all that as an el cheapo one, is something of a disservice to all the fun and enjoyment it can offer, which after all, is only the same as the approach Quality Wings have taken with their 757, and nobody says that is an el cheapo affair. I think the CLS 747 ticks a lot of the right boxes, especially for the average flight simmer, and would go so far as to say that it is one of the 'must have' airliners for FS if one is a completist, and yes, I do have the PMDG 747-400, and the Aerosim 747-400D too for that matter.Al

hear-hear :(

BTW, from CLS forum you can see that they are working on new reworked version of 747 classics. Will be interesting to see what it will be like...

The CLS 747-200/300 may not be the most expensive or detailed FS simulation ever of a 747, but it is not as basic as many would have you believe. It flies well, with perfomance pretty much on the numbers compared to the real aircraft, the model is pretty good, you get a lot of paint jobs, there are inexpensive freight expansions available for it too. All the old steam gauges required to fly it realistically are there in the sim and work in a fairly attractive and accurate VC, so unless you want to play 'flight engineer', it is an add-on worth having and one which I personally think is somewhat unfairly passed over by people, merely because the PMDG one (which is a completely different aircraft type) is available.Under the hood there is indeed not as much going on systems-wise as you find in more complex sims, but it is nevertheless a fairly decent simulation of the aircraft for everyday flying so long as you don't want to simulate every system failure under the sun. The fact that you can fly both INS-equipped and FMC-equipped variants of all the aircraft in the package adds a lot of 'playability' and value to it, as does the fact that it works in both FS9 and FSX, and even though the FMC is a 'lite' simulation of that particular system, it has enough there to enable one to do the basics of an FMC-controlled flight, which is great if you don't want to spend 30 minutes keying a flight plan in. In contrast to the fairly basic FMC, the INS is a pretty accurate simulation, so it does also offer the option of flight planning realism in an area where it really counts for a simulation of an older 747 from the days where the FMC was not around, with the added bonus of being able to fly an upgraded FMC-equipped one if you like.Regardless of it not being as complex as the PMDG 747, when you are hand-flying it, you still need to operate it as the huge chunk of metal that it represents, so actually flying the CLS one is as enjoyable a task as the PMDG one provides. Dismissing all that as an el cheapo one, is something of a disservice to all the fun and enjoyment it can offer, which after all, is only the same as the approach Quality Wings have taken with their 757, and nobody says that is an el cheapo affair. I think the CLS 747 ticks a lot of the right boxes, especially for the average flight simmer, and would go so far as to say that it is one of the 'must have' airliners for FS if one is a completist, and yes, I do have the PMDG 747-400, and the Aerosim 747-400D too for that matter.Al

Very well said Al I have to say I always enjoyed your opinions in this forum.

Ummmm, where did I say it was 'cheap' ? ........... I never made any reference to cost!

Ummmm, where did I say it was 'cheap' ? ........... I never made any reference to cost!

Correct. But I was referring to SooZee's slightly tongue in cheek comment about it being 'el cheapo'.Al

"The Queen of the Skies is made by PMDG and is an advanced 747-400 simulation (albeit from 2007), whereas the CLS 747-200/300 is a 'lite' addon, with little functionality over and above the default FSX aircraft.dismissive.maybe it wasnt intended that way, FMC "snobbery" hacks me off