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I dont think we'll ever see those in FS. Those screens are like 12" each, probably just too big.

>I dont think we'll ever see those in FS. Those screens are>like 12" each, probably just too big. Alex,Uhhmm, I could be mistaken. But I believe the screenshot is of a panel that has been made for FS2004 and has been available for a while now. Not sure what the display in the right-hand window is. Is it the default GPS 500 in terrain mode? I never use the default GPS, only the RealityXP Garmin 530.Anyway, the filename for the panel is: ng_se_pnl.zipAuthors: Greg Gott, Bob ProulxI have used that panel a few times and I believe that is what the screenshot is of. The panel is pretty cool. Very nice looking but it's missing a couple of things. For instance, I didn't see a way to adjust the barometer with my mouse, like most all panels have. I had to press 'B' on my keyboard. I thought the viewpoint could use changing, or, the addition of a 'landing view', as it is fairly hard to see much of anything but the panel! But hey, if you are wanting a good looking IFR panel then this certainly fits the bill.Again, I could be mistaken about what the screenshot is. Regards,Jim

It's the Garmin G1000 now being fitted to 172's, 182's and 210's by Cessna. It's a major leap forward as the technology leapfrogs even that available in modern airliners and gives GA pilots much improved situational awareness, better presentation of flight information, and access to new features such as TCAS and WX radar data previously only found in 737's and above.The fight in the marketplace was originally to see whether the market would accept the integrated glass cockpit in place of the traditional instruments, the natural reticence and reluctance of pilots being considered a stumbing block. However, both Garmin and Avidyne have seen the take-up on these instrument `options` reach close to 100%, so they are now to be fitted as standard in GA aircraft the world over.It would be inappropriate for the next version of FS to NOT have a Garmin cockpit for it's default Cessna's and Mooney, and you have to say that the displays lend themselves to simulator use quite readily. In five years you won't buy a new-build general aviation aircraft without a glass panel. And what is really funny is that real aviation will come close to Flight Sim when they introduce `Highway in The Sky` technology, which will enable pilots to fly and navigate even in IMC by simply following projected hoops or squares on the instrument screen. Sound familiar? Allcott

Hi,I took a look at the screenshots of the panel I talked about above. I can see that I was indeed mistaken and and that the screenshot is not of the FS2004 panel by Greg and Bob. It just looks pretty similar. Don't ask me why I didn't take a look at the screenshots of the FS2004 panel when I made my previous post. :-dohInteresting information Allcott."And what is really funny is that real aviation will come close to Flight Sim when they introduce `Highway in The Sky` technology, which will enable pilots to fly and navigate even in IMC by simply following projected hoops or squares on the instrument screen. Sound familiar?"Yeah, sounds like a Super Nintendo game I played some years ago. :-lol Can't recall the name of that game though.Cheers,Jim

Reminds me the squares in the sky available in FS since FS3!! :-)

Exactly. After millions of dollars of research, lining the pockets of consyultants, avionics experts and anyone else who wants a snort at the trough, they come to the conclusion that simmers have known for years: If you want to represent projected and future flightpath information, `thread the needle`.Seems to me they could just have gone out and bought a copy of FS for a few bucks to figure THAT out!Allcott

>to Flight Sim when they introduce `Highway in The Sky`>technology, which will enable pilots to fly and navigate even>HITS is already available from Chelton and will soon be even available for the experimental aircraft as well (Blue Mountain Avionics is beta testing its own HITS).Frankly I consider Chelton equipped panel to be even more advanced than the Garmin 1000. Nothing beats Highway-In-The-Sky technology as far as situational awarness is considered and NASA/FAA research/studies confirmed that. I think Garmin should wake up and offer HITS in its G1000 as an option. Michael J.http://www.reality-xp.com/community/nr/rsc/rxp-higher.jpg

http://www.cheltonflightsystems.com/images/F3_560.jpgMichael J.

If you look at the latent computing capacity of the Garmin (and Avidyne) units, you see lots of spare capacity. I wonder why?Allcott

If you mistook the real thing for a FltSim panel then I guess we might say its as real as it gets!

I understand that this is the future and the way to go, but It'll be a sad day when all you get in the cockpit is two 12-inch monitors to stare at :-( And doesn't it look more than a bit odd in a cessna 172 cokpit :D rgrds fredrik granfors

To my eyes, no. It's the vintage 1930's guages that look odd to me. I drive a standard car with fuel injection, watch television on a CRT and cook with a microwave oven. Why would I want to fly like Biggles in todays busy airspace?Old style instruments have been out of date for at least thirty years, and are way past the due date for replacement. This will enable display of modern information volumes in an easily assimilated form, and the similarities between computer flight sims and computer aided cockpits can only be good for safety, as training and proficiency should become much more natural. Imagine, you'll be able to use HITS to fly the real route on your desktop PC, with all frequency changes, altitude and course vectors, right down to the approach procedure for the runway in use. Then go out and fly the real thing almost the same. The picture you see on screen will not vary at all.That's currently the preserve of airline pilots, and they do it for safety reasons (and because it's cheaper to fly a simulator than the real thing). For may airline pilots the first time they fly the real bird in the real world, it's a revenue generating flight. Imagine the cross-training possibilities in GA. Same instruments, different plane is normally a cause for concern, as it's possible to fall back on what you know, what you normally see, and get the new plane into a dangerous position. With this, you simply watch and listen, the advanced cautions will protect you from straying too close to the corners of the flight envelope. In IMC or IFR it will be a lifesaver, in busy airspace a godsend, and in normal VFR flying a great benefit to being able to keep `eyes out` as audio visual cues will alert you to unwanted attitude, altitude or heading changes. or slaved to the autopilot it will enable you to monitor the instruments far more quickly and assimilate the data far more readily than before. Allcott

I couldn't agree more with you!! This is obviously the way to go for a number of reasons just as you mentioned. I just find the installation of it in the cessna a bit strange. But thats mostly from an aestethic point of view I guess! Like installing a GPS- navigator or the latest car stereo in a vintage Buick or Mini or something similar! It just doesn't match the airplane! But that's just the little designer in me talking! rgrds fredrik

I'll take one of each. Flat panel displays are great, but with work, play, and email I spend enough time staring at computer screens as it is, traditional gauges are a welcommed break-not to mention far more fulfilling.