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your opinion regarding my present or future setup.

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after years of setting up my system which runs fine with ofcourse some limitations, my question would be

to update slowly or wait and buy next year the hardware.

my system is now

3x 24 inch with matrox

gtx 470 2 gb

1 tb western harddisk

i7-920 overclocked to 4.2 ghz (stable)

mobo x58

I can run smoothly with the bufferpool=0 and further no tweaks

NI 8xs plus 2 grid

what I can not reach due to this setup is flying in weather which is more then fair weather.

 

what I would like to have is a system with 3x 27 inch 120 hz.

and ofcourse a little more heavy weather due to the multiplayer situation.

 

I could do two things in my opinion which is to buy

3x 27 iyama screens 120 hz

gtx 680 the 4 gb and use the matrox

i7-3770k

corsair H100 I also have the noctua 14 nh but dont know if you can use both

asus p8 Z77

ddr3 g skill 2400 mhz cl 9 8 gb

I have not a clue if I can reach my goals with this set up

any comment would be welcome.

 

Or I could wait for the next generation of hardware

please let me know your thoughts

paula

It all depends how you stand financially IMO. 3770 is going to swipe the 920 off its feet, and noone knows what a next gen is going to bring.

2700K is marginally cheaper but a better overclocker than 3770 (goes easier past or to 5.0).

PCIx3 brings little to nothing for FSX, but does for other games.

Running 3x27 is going to KILL your performance, no matter the hardware. I suggest one 27 or 30incher.

 

What is your goal? A solid performance? Which aircraft? How do you run your settings? What are your expectations? Kind of hard to answer...

Why would his current system punch out 3x24" smooth and a 680 struggle with 3x27"??

I was looking at 2x32" but obviously need a matrox so i have decided to go the x3 set up too..

 

Josh

Cheers Josh Cliff

Because each multi-monitor setup kills the performance.

 

But, I also mentioned above, it depends on what you fly - if you are light, then you will have enough overhead, thus is multi monitor a good solution.

 

We recently had a discussion about this, someone testing an NGX in the multi monitor setup and had a huge performance drop compared to a single screen. I went from 24 to 27 and had a FPS drop. Can't imagine what is gonna happen going to 3x 27. Of course, if the resolution is kept the same, performance is going to be the same. But I reckon he will wanna go 2560 pixels.

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in answer to your questions

a financial invest is not any problem

what i would like is increase the view from 3x 24 to 3x 27

but it had to work otherwise its a waste of money and i dont know if it will works and that s the question Í try to find out.

I like smooth flying and it would be nice if I could raise the weather a little bit more.

the aircrafts I fly for the next coming periods are the VRS F/A18 hornet and also connect to multiplayer to join other members.

ofcourse they fly with weather I have no control on.

someone told me the size of the monitors is not the problem but the resolution

that will not change it stays 1920x1080 but I will go from 60 hz to 120 hz.

due to this 120 hz I have to eliminate the tripple matrox and connect the three directly to the gtx 680 4.0 gb

with this extra info could you let shine your thoughts about it?

paula

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in answer to your questions

a financial invest is not any problem

what i would like is increase the view from 3x 24 to 3x 27

but it had to work otherwise its a waste of money and i dont know if it will works and that s the question Í try to find out.

I like smooth flying and it would be nice if I could raise the weather a little bit more.

the aircrafts I fly for the next coming periods are the VRS F/A18 hornet and also connect to multiplayer to join other members.

ofcourse they fly with weather I have no control on.

someone told me the size of the monitors is not the problem but the resolution

that will not change it stays 1920x1080 but I will go from 60 hz to 120 hz.

due to this 120 hz I have to eliminate the tripple matrox and connect the three directly to the gtx 680 4.0 gb

with this extra info could you let shine your thoughts about it?

 

The only way to get great performance in a multi-monitor setup is to cutback on AA or even disable AA all together, along with getting rid of stuff like grid supersampling transparency. These are the huge killers when running very large resolutions on a nvidia surround setup.

 

If you want AA and grid supersampling transparency, then you need to think about a SLI setup.

 

You can also cut back on resolution but then IQ will suffer since the monitors won't be running at their native resolutions. It's all about compromises and willing to pay to play if you still want all the bells and whistles.

 

- Grammar #####, this was sent from my phone.

Regards,

Efrain Ruiz
LiveDISPATCH @ http://www.livedispatch.org (CLOSED) ☹️

I agree with Efrain's comments, and let me just expound upon them by saying that with a high enough resolution and a corresponding dot pitch e.g. 2560x1440 on a 27" screen, the need for AA is drastically reduced. I don't run any on my 3x2560x1440 setup and the image quality is fantastic.

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i still do not understand why my new setup /mobo/processor/memory/ssd harddisc would give less fps on a 27 inch 3x

than my present i7-920 and 3x 24 inch, only with more weather then fair weather I got problems.

1920x1080 is the resolution for both

paula

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i still do not understand why my new setup /mobo/processor/memory/ssd harddisc would give less fps on a 27 inch 3x

than my present i7-920 and 3x 24 inch, only with more weather then fair weather I got problems.

1920x1080 is the resolution for both

 

Disable 2GSS and it will perform much much better.

 

- Grammar *censored*, this was sent from my phone.

Regards,

Efrain Ruiz
LiveDISPATCH @ http://www.livedispatch.org (CLOSED) ☹️

So in theory running 3 monitors with a native resolution of 1366x768 would help spread/reduce the work load instead of 3 x 1920x1080 and still have a gret picture quality??

Cheers Josh Cliff

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most of you give answer if I already have the new one.

my first question is this thread explains what I have and what I want.

I dont have a problem with my present configuration

I dont want to have no problems in the future thats why I asked for some opinion.

The only one who give me an answer is Word Not Allowed but I think I cannot agree with him because

what I mentioned as answer after his one.

paula

most of you give answer if I already have the new one.

my first question is this thread explains what I have and what I want.

I dont have a problem with my present configuration

I dont want to have no problems in the future thats why I asked for some opinion.

The only one who give me an answer is Word Not Allowed but I think I cannot agree with him because

what I mentioned as answer after his one.

 

I think you got great explanations to your issues here.

I would say Efrain in particular hit the nail in the head.

A GTX470 + 2xSGSS, that's why your performance suffers in conditions other that CAVOK

Going 3 screens is just going to make matters worse, much worse, as Word Not Allowed said. A GTX670 or 680 is the way to go for 3 screens right now. Upgrading to Sandy Bridge / Ivy Bridge should help too

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I think you got great explanations to your issues here.

I would say Efrain in particular hit the nail in the head.

A GTX470 + 2xSGSS, that's why your performance suffers in conditions other that CAVOK

Going 3 screens is just going to make matters worse, much worse, as Word Not Allowed said. A GTX670 or 680 is the way to go for 3 screens right now. Upgrading to Sandy Bridge / Ivy Bridge should help too

 

Exactly! I have my system stable now at 4.9GHz with an EVGA GTX670 FTW but even then, I am running with NO AA in order to be able to maintain 25-30FPS inside heavy weather with a resolution of 6012x1200x32 across (3) 24" Dell 1920x1200 monitors. It is what it is. If I want to run AA and 2xSGSS on mssetup and still maintain good FPS, I have to invest in another GTX670 and run SLI.

 

One has to be realistic and accept the fact that AA/SGSS at extremely high resolutions need SLI if you want to maintain any degree of fluidity while flying in heavy clouds.

Regards,

Efrain Ruiz
LiveDISPATCH @ http://www.livedispatch.org (CLOSED) ☹️

Exactly! I have my system stable now at 4.9GHz with an EVGA GTX670 FTW but even then, I am running with NO AA in order to be able to maintain 25-30FPS inside heavy weather with a resolution of 6012x1200x32 across (3) 24" Dell 1920x1200 monitors. It is what it is. If I want to run AA and 2xSGSS on mssetup and still maintain good FPS, I have to invest in another GTX670 and run SLI.

 

One has to be realistic and accept the fact that AA/SGSS at extremely high resolutions need SLI if you want to maintain any degree of fluidity while flying in heavy clouds.

 

Some of us have found SLI useless for SGSS Efrain, at least in certain conditions, namely DX9 + virtual cockpit in most complex addon A/C with glass cockpits.

Just to let you know what to expect. I don't know if it's of any use for 3x screen resolutions though

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Some of us have found SLI useless for SGSS Efrain, at least in certain conditions, namely DX9 + virtual cockpit in most complex addon A/C with glass cockpits.

Just to let you know what to expect. I don't know if it's of any use for 3x screen resolutions though

 

Hmmm That's interesting... Thanks for that info, Dario... I wonder what are the real advantaged then, of running SLI in FSX...

Regards,

Efrain Ruiz
LiveDISPATCH @ http://www.livedispatch.org (CLOSED) ☹️

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