Enjoy RC4 so far just a few things need some info on. Using W7 64 bit FS9.1, Ultiamte Traffic, BP inter KMCO scenery. I was at gate 23 at KMCO the ATIS only gave rwy 35L for landing and departing, So I requested RWY 36R since I was on that side of the airport UT 3 AI taxing in front of me, us air, contintal. ATC never talked to them at all I was number 4 and given clearance to taxi in pos and hold as #2 but I waited till runway cleared but I could hear ATC talking to the folks on RWY 35L any ideas? Also I'm using Ulitmate Gulfstream and Chanlenger AI which land and take off everywhere at ATC never talks to, one day I was taking off and one was landing from the other direction never talked to tower. Thanks for the help.

If you new to RC4 update FSUIPC and makerwys from the distribution version, then after updating makerwys run the RC scenery rebuild again.

http://forum.simflight.com/topic/66139-updated-modules/

http://forum.simflight.com/topic/66136-useful-additional-programs/

 

In UT2 be sure your aircraft rendering distance is set to maximum. When present ai patterns take priority in RC for runway assignment. In UT2 sometimes ai arrive late. If using any of the Active Sky or other weather apps be sure to refresh ai after the weather app finishes modifying the weather to correct ATIS reporting. Allow weather and ai to stabilize before requesting runway assignment. Updates for Active Sky FSX apps should be installed. This has to do with the mandatory global weather mode used if DWC is enabled which can cause wind shifting to the same as your aircraft location and changing as you get closer to the airport. There are some fixes in it for weather reporting. For approach RC looks for ai patterns when first assigning a runway on approach contact. It then looks for ai again a little further in in case a runway assignment needs changing.

 

In several posts here, UT2 has been found to use non-standard ai radio identification that may not be in RC's data and sound files. In addition UT2 has been found to assign airline names with added flight numbers delayed until taxi-out causing tail numbers to be used. In these cases RC spells the code phonetically.

 

To check how ai is reported also grab the free traffic look application. It runs using FSUIIPC and in a separate window showing the aircraft id and state of the aircraft. It can be toggled between air and ground ai. To switch between FS and Traffic Look, use alt-tab, or run Traffic Look on a second monitor.

 

Check out this thread regarding UT2 traffic identification:

http://forum.avsim.net/topic/382793-call-signs-in-fsx-with-ultimate-traffic/

 

If you modify any files be sure to make safe copies of rcv3.dat and keyboard.dat in your RC folder and in \data c4.csv. Always use a text editor (word or wordpad), not a spreadsheet application to edit .csv files.

 

Best RC performance is attained by not using PreRecorded chatter and setting Interact with AI on as well as AI Chatter.

 

You should also know that ai chatter is limited to the same phase of communications (approach. tower, etc.) Let RC tune your com 1 for best results.

you can make a log, information at top of forum, and tell me what ai you think rc should say something to, but you don't hear it. if you are on ground frequency and they are on tower, you won't hear it. if they were cleared before you switched to their frequency, you won't hear it.

 

jd

Just clear up things where do you put the files created by make rwys

makerwys.exe get placed in your FS folder. There are two ways to proceed with it:

 

If RC is on the same PC as FS, the run the scenery rebuild from within RC. Be sure you put in the correct full path to your FS folder. Mine is for example "h:\program files\microsoft games\flight simulator 9" (without quotes). (I keep that path in a text file on the desktop so I can copy and then paste in in the RC path dialogs when needed with ctrl-v.) Answer No to the are you on Wide FS query. RC will then execute makerwys in your FS folder which will generate several files there. When you answer OK to the last dialog of makerwys stating the number of airports, etc., and that it is completed. RC will then copy the created r5.csv in your FS folder as r4.csv in your RC\data folder. Answer OK and then it will build a4.csv in your RC\data folder. When RC states a4 building is finished answer OK and wait about a half minute to insure your system has finished writing that file and then close RC. The next time you use RC it will use the new data.

 

If RC is on a networked client to an FS host via Wide FS before you start RC first run makerwys.exe in your FS folder. When it states it is finished answer OK. Then start RC and go into the scenery rebuild. This time answer Yes to the question about WideFS. You'll get a caution about running makerwys in FS first but if you did that state OK and then be sure you put in the network full path to your FS folder. At that point RC will copy over your network from your FS host folder r5.csv as r4.csv in your RC\data folder and build a4.csv from that as described in the previous paragraph.

 

If you are on VISTA or Win 7 RC should be started with a shortcut. In that shortcut set its security properties to run as admin so it has no problem accessing your FS folder.

 

 

Just clear up things where do you put the files created by make rwys

Thank you!

Did all you ask still no help, weired thing at KMCO ATIS says runway 35L Landing Departing only one listed out 4 rwys then I request taxi it wants me to taxi to 36R all the way on the other side from which I am. My path is C:\Flight Simulator 9, and the RC4 is in C:\ program files\ RC, I do have scenery file under FS9 addon and C:\libraries\documents\flight simulator files where all my purchased scenery go?

First we will insure that the data files between FS and RC transferred Ok. In your FS folder look for r5.csv. Get the date-time of modification and size by right clicking on it. Now go to your rcv4\data folder and right click of r4.csv (a copy of r5.csv) whicjh should almost have the same date-time stamp and be the same size. If that is OK then go back to your FS folder and use word or wordpad to open runways.txt, a huge log file.

 

Search for your airport of interest such as "Airport KMCO" (without quotes). The first encounter will be the default KMCO and you'll see a path in the head of that section to the default folder and file used for the data. The file name will start with AP followed by a few numbers.

 

For each scenery add-on (including afcad types) there will be two sections to the same path, not necessarily together. We'll cal this a section pair. The first section regards deletions and the second has runway data and other information. If you have an add-on for KMCO continue to search for Airport KMCO. The last section pair you find in runways.txt has priority (as established by your library setup recorded in scenery.cfg) has priority and that furnishes the data to RC in r5.csv.

 

See if that last entry section pair points correctly to any add-on scenery. Again, make sure your makerwys.exe is current and you provided a correct path to your FS folder.

This is what I find it is not what it should be. Again the updated AFCAD is in Addon Scenery undr FS9 main folder. It has a 35L & 35R and 17L & 17R which is not present.

 

Airport KMCO N28:25:43.9930 W081:18:57.6998 96ft

Runway 18L/36R centre: N28:25:54.5535 W081:19:19.6701 96ft

Computed start 18L: Lat 28.448328 Long -81.322305

Computed start 36R: Lat 28.415312 Long -81.321951

Hdg: 179.460 true (MagVar -4.500), ASPHALT, 12037 x 200 ft

Secondary ILS: IOJP 110.70 , Flags: GS BC

*** Runway *** KMCO0181 Lat 28.448328 Long -81.322304 Alt 96 Hdg 184 Len 12037 Wid 200

*** Runway *** KMCO0362 Lat 28.415312 Long -81.321953 Alt 96 Hdg 4 Len 12037 Wid 200 ILS 110.70, Flags: GS BC

Runway 18R/36L centre: N28:25:54.4239 W081:19:36.4699 96ft

Computed start 18R: Lat 28.448292 Long -81.326974

Computed start 36L: Lat 28.415276 Long -81.326621

Hdg: 179.460 true (MagVar -4.500), CONCRETE, 12037 x 200 ft

Primary ILS: ITFE 111.90 , Flags: GS BC

*** Runway *** KMCO0182 Lat 28.448292 Long -81.326973 Alt 96 Hdg 184 Len 12037 Wid 200 ILS 111.90, Flags: GS BC

*** Runway *** KMCO0361 Lat 28.415276 Long -81.326622 Alt 96 Hdg 4 Len 12037 Wid 200

Runway 17 /35 centre: N28:25:18.6930 W081:17:44.6492 96ft

Computed start 17 : Lat 28.435610 Long -81.295883

Computed start 35 : Lat 28.408110 Long -81.295594

Hdg: 179.470 true (MagVar -4.500), CONCRETE, 10026 x 150 ft

Primary ILS: IDIZ 111.75 , Flags: GS DME BC

Secondary ILS: IDDO 110.50 , Flags: GS DME BC

*** Runway *** KMCO0170 Lat 28.435610 Long -81.295883 Alt 96 Hdg 184 Len 10026 Wid 150 ILS 111.75, Flags: GS DME BC

*** Runway *** KMCO0350 Lat 28.408110 Long -81.295593 Alt 96 Hdg 4 Len 10026 Wid 150 ILS 110.50, Flags: GS DME BC

Area.062 "KMCO" (Layer=58)

Local=..\Users\Scot Mason\Documents\Flight Simulator Files\KMCO\Scenery

=============================================================================

 

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Here is what needs to be checked that I've highlighted. This is for the default KMCO:

 

Airport KMCO :N28:25:43.9930 W081:18:57.6998 96ft

Country Name="United States"

State Name="Florida"

City Name="Orlando"

Airport Name="Orlando Intl"

in file: Scenery\NAME\scenery\AP926210.BGL

 

Runway 18L/36R centre: N28:25:54.5535 W081:19:19.6701 96ft

Start 18L: N28:26:52.2478 W081:19:20.2865 96ft Hdg: 179.5T, Length 12037ft

Computed start 18L: Lat 28.448328 Long -81.322305

Start 36R: N28:24:56.8592 W081:19:19.0521 96ft Hdg: 359.5T, Length 12037ft

Computed start 36R: Lat 28.415312 Long -81.321951

Hdg: 179.460 true (MagVar -4.500), Asphalt, 12037 x 200 ft

Secondary ILS ID = IOJP

Secondary ILS: IOJP 110.70 Hdg: 359.5 , Flags: GS BC "CAT III ILS 36R"

*** Runway *** KMCO0181 Lat 28.448328 Long -81.322304 Alt 96 Hdg 184 Len 12037 Wid 200

*** Runway *** KMCO0362 Lat 28.415312 Long -81.321953 Alt 96 Hdg 4 Len 12037 Wid 200 ILS 110.70, Flags: GS BC

Runway 18R/36L centre: N28:25:54.4239 W081:19:36.4699 96ft

Start 18R: N28:26:52.1183 W081:19:37.0879 96ft Hdg: 179.5T, Length 12037ft

Computed start 18R: Lat 28.448292 Long -81.326974

Start 36L: N28:24:56.6973 W081:19:35.8519 96ft Hdg: 359.5T, Length 12037ft

Computed start 36L: Lat 28.415276 Long -81.326621

Hdg: 179.460 true (MagVar -4.500), Concrete, 12037 x 200 ft

Primary ILS ID = ITFE

Primary ILS: ITFE 111.90 Hdg: 179.5 , Flags: GS BC "ILS 18R"

*** Runway *** KMCO0182 Lat 28.448292 Long -81.326973 Alt 96 Hdg 184 Len 12037 Wid 200 ILS 111.90, Flags: GS BC

*** Runway *** KMCO0361 Lat 28.415276 Long -81.326622 Alt 96 Hdg 4 Len 12037 Wid 200

Runway 17 /35 centre: N28:25:18.6930 W081:17:44.6492 96ft

Start 17 : N28:26:06.4746 W081:17:45.1498 96ft Hdg: 179.5T, Length 10026ft

Computed start 17 : Lat 28.435610 Long -81.295883

Start 35 : N28:24:30.8790 W081:17:44.1486 96ft Hdg: 359.5T, Length 10026ft

Computed start 35 : Lat 28.408110 Long -81.295594

Hdg: 179.470 true (MagVar -4.500), Concrete, 10026 x 150 ft

Primary ILS ID = IDIZ

Primary ILS: IDIZ 111.75 Hdg: 179.5 , Flags: GS DME BC "CAT II ILS/DME 17"

Secondary ILS ID = IDDO

Secondary ILS: IDDO 110.50 Hdg: 359.5 , Flags: GS DME BC "CAT III ILS/DME 35"

*** Runway *** KMCO0170 Lat 28.435610 Long -81.295883 Alt 96 Hdg 184 Len 10026 Wid 150 ILS 111.75, Flags: GS DME BC

*** Runway *** KMCO0350 Lat 28.408110 Long -81.295593 Alt 96 Hdg 4 Len 10026 Wid 150 ILS 110.50, Flags: GS DME BC

 

 

--end extract--

 

For a traffic package afcad add-on first a deletions section:

..\..\..\PAI-AF2S\scenery\PAI_AF2_KMCO_DEFAULT.bgl

=============================================================================

Deletions check for Airport KMCO:

Delete all taxiways!

 

 

Delete all runways and starts!

 

*** DelBth *** KMCO0170 Lat 28.435610 Long -81.295883 Alt 96 Hdg 184 Len 10026 Wid 150 ILS 111.75, Flags: GS DME BC

 

*** DelBth *** KMCO0181 Lat 28.448328 Long -81.322304 Alt 96 Hdg 184 Len 12037 Wid 200

 

*** DelBth *** KMCO0182 Lat 28.448292 Long -81.326973 Alt 96 Hdg 184 Len 12037 Wid 200 ILS 111.90, Flags: GS BC

 

*** DelBth *** KMCO0350 Lat 28.408110 Long -81.295593 Alt 96 Hdg 4 Len 10026 Wid 150 ILS 110.50, Flags: GS DME BC

 

*** DelBth *** KMCO0361 Lat 28.415276 Long -81.326622 Alt 96 Hdg 4 Len 12037 Wid 200

 

*** DelBth *** KMCO0362 Lat 28.415312 Long -81.321953 Alt 96 Hdg 4 Len 12037 Wid 200 ILS 110.70, Flags: GS BC

 

 

Delete all taxiways!

 

 

COM: Delete all frequencies!

=============================================================================

 

and then the runway data (plus other stuff) later on:

 

..\..\..\PAI-AF2S\scenery\PAI_AF2_KMCO_DEFAULT.bgl

=============================================================================

 

Airport KMCO :N28:25:43.9930 W081:18:57.6998 96ft

Country Name="United States"

State Name="Florida"

City Name="Orlando"

Airport Name="Orlando Intl"

in file: ..\..\..\PAI-AF2S\scenery\PAI_AF2_KMCO_DEFAULT.bgl

 

Runway 18L/36R centre: N28:25:54.5535 W081:19:19.6701 96ft

Start 18L: N28:26:52.2478 W081:19:20.2865 96ft Hdg: 179.5T, Length 12037ft

Computed start 18L: Lat 28.448328 Long -81.322305

Start 36R: N28:24:56.8592 W081:19:19.0521 96ft Hdg: 359.5T, Length 12037ft

Computed start 36R: Lat 28.415312 Long -81.321951

Hdg: 179.460 true (MagVar -4.500), Asphalt, 12037 x 200 ft

Secondary ILS ID = IOJP

*** No matching ILS record - assume provided by another layer

*** Runway *** KMCO0181 Lat 28.448328 Long -81.322304 Alt 96 Hdg 184 Len 12037 Wid 200

*** Runway *** KMCO0362 Lat 28.415312 Long -81.321953 Alt 96 Hdg 4 Len 12037 Wid 200

Runway 18R/36L centre: N28:25:54.4239 W081:19:36.4699 96ft

Start 18R: N28:26:52.1183 W081:19:37.0879 96ft Hdg: 179.5T, Length 12037ft

Computed start 18R: Lat 28.448292 Long -81.326974

Start 36L: N28:24:56.6973 W081:19:35.8519 96ft Hdg: 359.5T, Length 12037ft

Computed start 36L: Lat 28.415276 Long -81.326621

Hdg: 179.460 true (MagVar -4.500), Concrete, 12037 x 200 ft

Primary ILS ID = ITFE

*** No matching ILS record - assume provided by another layer

*** Runway *** KMCO0182 Lat 28.448292 Long -81.326973 Alt 96 Hdg 184 Len 12037 Wid 200

*** Runway *** KMCO0361 Lat 28.415276 Long -81.326622 Alt 96 Hdg 4 Len 12037 Wid 200

Runway 17 /35 centre: N28:25:18.6930 W081:17:44.6492 96ft

Start 17 : N28:26:06.4746 W081:17:45.1498 96ft Hdg: 179.5T, Length 10026ft

Computed start 17 : Lat 28.435610 Long -81.295883

Start 35 : N28:24:30.8790 W081:17:44.1486 96ft Hdg: 359.5T, Length 10026ft

Computed start 35 : Lat 28.408110 Long -81.295594

Hdg: 179.470 true (MagVar -4.500), Concrete, 10026 x 150 ft

Primary ILS ID = IDIZ

*** No matching ILS record - assume provided by another layer

Secondary ILS ID = IDDO

*** No matching ILS record - assume provided by another layer

*** Runway *** KMCO0170 Lat 28.435610 Long -81.295883 Alt 96 Hdg 184 Len 10026 Wid 150

*** Runway *** KMCO0350 Lat 28.408110 Long -81.295593 Alt 96 Hdg 4 Len 10026 Wid 150

 

------end extract------------

 

Note that the path to the add-on scenery both sections is the same. In your system, does this path-filename point to your KMCO add-on? It gets this info from your scenery.cfg as managed by your FS library setup. The last pair of sections (deletions followed by the additions) gets priority in creating the runway file r5.csv.

 

Now I did not quite understand your last post. It looked like an unfinished file too long for notepad. You need word or wordpad.

 

Are you sure you updated to makerwys version 4612 and then ran the scenery rebuild?

fsuipc.simflight.com/beta/MakeRunways_4612.zip is the direct link to today's version.

 

To see if the data copied go into your fs folder and find r5.csv, right click, and get the date-time modified and the size. Then get the same properties for r4.csv in your RCv4\data folder. The time should be close and the size the same.

 

Now open r4.csv in word or wordpad, not a spreadsheet application. Search for KMCO. For the adcad that is listed as an add-on above it looks like this:

 

KMCO,0170,28.435610,-81.295883,96,183.970,10026,111.75BDG,150,-4.500,28.421860,-81.295738,0,,

KMCO,0181,28.448328,-81.322304,96,183.960,12037,0,200,-4.500,28.431820,-81.322128,0,,

KMCO,0182,28.448292,-81.326973,96,183.960,12037,111.90BG,200,-4.500,28.431784,-81.326797,0,,

KMCO,0350,28.408110,-81.295593,96,3.970,10026,110.50BDG,150,-4.500,28.421860,-81.295738,0,,

KMCO,0361,28.415276,-81.326622,96,3.960,12037,0,200,-4.500,28.431784,-81.326797,0,,

KMCO,0362,28.415312,-81.321953,96,3.960,12037,110.70BG,200,-4.500,28.431820,-81.322128,0,,

 

The numbers after the ID mean:

17, 18L, 18L, 35, 36L, 36R

(Your scenery is current with four, not three runways, where there are now parallel 17/35s so you would add one row to the above.)

 

For the Localizer and guidance:

ILSFreq as nnnnn for nnn.nn, or just 0 when no ILS

ILSFreqFlags is ILSFreq then optional B (backcourse), D (DME) G (Glideslope) equipped

 

RCr does not use the closed flags or types of permission flags to my knowledge:

Status: ,CT for Closed for Takeoff and/or ,CL for Closed for Landing

Clsed runways are not listed.

 

You might wish to make a safe copy of r5.csv and r4.csv before checking them.

 

In the scenery rebuild r5.csv gets built, is copied to RCv4\data and then a4.csv, the airport coordinates file, is built from that.

 

RC should be assigning the runways used by ai first and if none are present then the closest runway to your parking with winds as first priority.

All seems to be in the Large File, here's what happened tonight MYNN-KMCO, MYNN seems to work great, Enroute to KMCO Center gives me expect 17L and hands me off to Approach and Approach Changes to 18R, ATIS only gives 18R as the option so I request 17L since I'm east of KMCO and Approach grants me 17L but I'm never cleared lower than 4000' and never vectored to the runway I flew west past RWY 17L/17R/18L and so I just canceled IFR and landed. Ran a fresh update and all is as you stated above. Both scenerys are in the large file.