October 21, 201213 yr You could also consider the human factor. Check list require you to have the flaps set before takeoff. Even so, unintetional flaps up takeoffs have been performed (and not all of them where succesfull). Yeah and a derate would make it very unsuccessful with no flaps! Max power is more fun! Interestingly, we don't have a derated takeoff in the ATR but we could in the Dash. Probably because the ATR is derated all the time :lol: Chris Miller
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